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Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« on: December 08, 2006, 11:26:21 PM »

In keeping with the new Save The Train policy , all non - Melksham related timetable proposals will now be dealt with through this thread.

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Portsmouth - Cardiff Airport.
http://www.shinewithstyle.co.uk/literature/Suggested%20Portsmouth%20-%20Rhoose%20timetable.pdf

Weymouth - Severn Beach.
http://www.shinewithstyle.co.uk/literature/Suggested%20Weymouth%20-%20Severn%20Beach%20timetable.pdf

Greater Bristol Metro.
http://www.shinewithstyle.co.uk/literature/Draft%20Greater%20Bristol%20Metro%20Proposals.pdf

The development process for the Melksham proposals (link below.) will be overseen by Graham. Chris - can you assist as per his instructions?
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=766.msg2221#msg2221

As for the non - Melksham related timetable proposals , could you possibly begin development on a Bicester - Bristol timetable including the London - Bristol / Cheltenham Spa / Wales "hypothetical" timings? Allow yourself 4 units & take a "blank - sheet" approach. For example , if (say) extra Oxford - Banbury services can be included , feel free to add them in.
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Re: Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 11:55:52 PM »

Lee,

I now know where I'm standing - I got a bit confused at first, but now have done Graham's part and posted that on his side of the proposals.

As for the Bicester - Bristol timetable, I take it we are still using the same 4 units we were using before (2x158 freed from London pattern and 2x158 swapped from 2x166 going into storage)?
And also when you say for example if extra Oxford - Banbury services can be included feel free to add them in do you mean Bicester or actually Banbury?
Also, would the Bicester - Bristol timetable extend anywhere else southward, or would that be it?
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Re: Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 11:58:49 PM »

Same 4 units. A "blank sheet" approach means that you have free rein to take the service where you like (Im after innovative ideas on this - all welcome.)
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 12:00:31 AM »

OK, will give it a go over the weekend, and will post when I have some rough ideas.  Grin
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Re: Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 12:15:03 AM »

Thanks Chris.

To all - I should add that southwards extensions are ok but not including the Melksham line , which is not the remit of this section.
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Re: Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2006, 01:13:52 AM »

Quote from Andrew Griffiths :

“From the outside, railway timetabling may appear simple, but in reality it is a complex jigsaw."

I would agree with that. Although I am sure that Andrew was not referring to our efforts , I feel that a detailed breakdown of how our proposals have been shaped would be appropriate.

LONDON - BRISTOL / CHELTENHAM SPA / WALES

1) Timetable follows established train paths.

2) Timetable has been checked to ensure that more than one train never occupies the Swindon - Kemble single - track section.

3) Increasing the frequency of the London - Cheltenham Spa service to hourly was recommended by Jacobs Consultancy (pages 61 & 62 of the link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_foi/documents/page/dft_foi_612538.pdf

PORTSMOUTH - CARDIFF AIRPORT

1) Timetable follows established train paths with one exception - the 1512 Portsmouth Harbour departure.

If a 1512 departure time turns out not to be feasible , then it would be moved forward to 1522. The Dean and Mottisfont & Dunbridge stops would then be removed and replaced by stops in the SWT services. SWT have already confirmed to us that they plan to serve Dean and Mottisfont & Dunbridge from December 2007 , so this should not be a problem.

2) Where stops have been added (Keynsham & Oldfield Park being obvious examples) the following principles have been strictly adhered to :

- No conflicting train paths.

- No adverse potential effect on performance.

Unless the above criteria has been met , the stop has not been allowed.

WEYMOUTH - SEVERN BEACH

1) Timetable follows established train paths.

2) All single - track sections / passing loops taken into account and checked for pathing conflicts.

3) Timetable does not conflict with "Inter - City" trains on the Castle Cary - Westbury section.

GREATER BRISTOL METRO

As this timetable involves some re - casting , the following precautions have been taken :

1) Timetable is clearly marked as "draft."

2) The widest possible range of potentially interested parties have been consulted for their views. Where this has resulted in timetable changes , we have been open about this , and explained them fully.

3) Steve Webb MP (Northavon) has agreed to help move the GBM proposals forward. As you can see from the link below , he has a proven track record when dealing with organisations such as Network Rail (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6204058.stm

4) All single - track sections / passing loops taken into account and checked for pathing conflicts.

5) Freight train services have been taken into account , and paths found for them.

6) Timetable does not conflict at key junctions (e.g Filton.)

To conclude , everything possible has been done to ensure that our proposals stand up to scrutiny , and that our timetables are "robust."
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Re: Timetable Proposals - Non Melksham
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 06:20:16 PM »

Slight changes have been implemented on the Greater Bristol Metro draft timetable, see below:

> Cross Country trains call at Filton Abbey Wood, increasing the tph at Filton Abbey to 8 trains per hour
> The path of the northbound Avonmouth to Bristol Parkway freight train has been retimed to 1 minute earlier throughout its journey.
> Stations between and including Montpellier and St. Andrew's Road have updated status as having 2tph.

Link --> http://www.shinewithstyle.co.uk/literature/Draft Greater Bristol Metro Proposals.pdf
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