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Re-opening of old lines? Can it be true?
« on: January 30, 2008, 11:34:40 PM »

Have I just imagined it or did I hear Ruth Kelly on the radio contemplating bringing back old railway lines back into use to ease capacity problems on busy lines (she cited London-Birmingham). 

Is a slight change in political will being detected or a red herring?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 02:26:10 AM »

Red herring probably. Too knackered after getting back from gallivanting around FGW land all day to give a more inciteful answer.

On the plus side, I got some interesting pics....

Kelly & Co released their "long-awaited" rolling stock plan today. See link below.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/rollingstock/rollingstockplan
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 04:46:11 AM »

Fom Ruth Keyy's Appendix B, which shows a total of exactly 1300 extra vehicles, split electric and diesel. FGW gets no electtic and 52 diesel, and the commentary is:

9. First Great Western would introduce additional class 150 DMU vehicles for regional services around Bristol cascaded from London Midland, as well as new DMU vehicles for London suburban services. Furthermore, the possibility of lengthening some existing HST sets to increase capacity on the Thames Valley route into Paddington is being investigated.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 10:27:45 AM »

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Re: Re-opening of old lines? Can it be true?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 10:58:39 AM »


Is a slight change in political will being detected or a red herring?

Lee I am sure you posted a newspaper article recently in which she didnt rule out the possibility of re opening the Grand Central to provide additional capacity London to Birmingham?
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 11:04:34 AM »

Red herring probably.

Indeed, Lee. There is a massive difference between 'not ruling anything out' and actively pursuing the steps required to get something up-and-running.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 11:24:52 AM »


Is a slight change in political will being detected or a red herring?

Lee I am sure you posted a newspaper article recently in which she didnt rule out the possibility of re opening the Grand Central to provide additional capacity London to Birmingham?

Indeed I did (link below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5298.msg9496#msg9496

However, the DfT have ruled out re-openings until 2014, and their overall policy appears to be one of scepticism towards schemes like the one you mention.
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