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Stagecoach Win South Western Franchise
« on: September 22, 2006, 09:41:23 AM »

Stagecoach has been awarded a fresh contract to run services on its South West Trains franchise (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/09/stagecoach_wins_swt_railway_fr.html#more

The government said the group would pay £1.19bn (high price in my view) for the right to run the routes for 10 years from February 2007.

Stagecoach said it expected the deal to generate annual profits of £15m to £20m during its early years.

The group added it planned to boost capacity on rail routes by running longer trains and more services during peak times.


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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 10:50:39 AM »

Congratulations to Stagecoach;  I've got a very busy day and will look at details later but my first thought is that I'm relieved that the franchise hasn't been won by any company operating a neighbouring area.  And that's not saying anything against First (FGW) or Govia (Southern Trains).
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 11:39:49 AM »

Stagecoach press release link.
http://www.stagecoach.com/scg/media/press/pr2006/2006-09-22/

Below is the quote that worries me.

"The new franchise incorporates a multi-million-pound investment programme and will generate £1,191million (Net Present Value) in premium payments to the DfT over the 10-year period."



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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 02:55:11 PM »

Stagecoach press release link.
http://www.stagecoach.com/scg/media/press/pr2006/2006-09-22/

Below is the quote that worries me.

"The new franchise incorporates a multi-million-pound investment programme and will generate £1,191million (Net Present Value) in premium payments to the DfT over the 10-year period."

It would appear that Bob Crow & the RMT agree (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/09/huge_majority_want_public_rail.html#more

"After the debacle of the GNER franchise it is also deeply worrying that Stagecoach has agreed to stump up a premium of £1.2 billion over the ten years of the SWT franchise."
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 06:44:08 PM »

The former chief of the UK rail arm of troubled transport group Sea Containers has warned that the UK's rail franchising system is heading for collapse (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/09/former_sea_containers_rail_chi.html#more

Chris Garnett, who resigned as chief executive of Great North Eastern Railway (GNER) last month, said franchises will 'self-destruct' under the weight of agreements to make huge premium payments to the British government.

Garnett also accused the Department for Transport (DfT) of abandoning investment in rail in order to meet Treasury cost-cutting targets.

'The one thing this lot won't do is spend any money on the railways,' Garnett said in an interview with industry magazine Rail.

Garnett said the DfT and the Treasury now have too much control of the rail industry and are putting cost before investment and strategic vision.

'The department puts out a specification and that is going to be the minimum it thinks it can get away with and cost the least,' Garnett said.

'And so anything that might add capacity or anything that might take the railways forward, has to be absolutely dragged out of the DfT. So no bidder puts anything in a bid that enhances the railway if it isn't self-funding because they'll lose.

'If we were running a decent railway, that's what we would be doing.'
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2006, 02:13:39 PM »

The former chief executive of GNER, the struggling British train operation, has warned that the market for rail franchises will "self-destruct" because bids are getting too high (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/09/railways_heading_for_spectacul.html#more

Mr Garnett said the franchise market was unsustainable because the winning bids have low margins, reflecting the pressure to win highly competitive franchise contests. Last week Stagecoach renewed the south-west franchise, which includes the UK's busiest commuter routes, with a £1.2bn bid. It came 10 months after FirstGroup won the Great Western network for £1bn.

"Franchise bidding has got too tight. The margins are too slender, but the trouble is every train company says, 'You've got to win it' - and bids accordingly. We had to win GNER," said Mr Garnett.

"It's going to take some pretty spectacular failures, I think, before people move the margins. The market will self-destruct as bidders bid to win on ever-tighter margins. When it goes wrong, it's going to come right back to the Department for Transport."
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 06:09:49 PM »

The payment of large premiums by operators for contracts to run train services is, in essence, a tax on train travel with the operators each having to vie against each other to see who can apply the highest rate of tax and still have a viable business.   There's a couple of major flaws in this system:

a) It's not "fail safe". In other words, the operators are encouraged to push their bids to the limits of what's sensible and sometimes beyond, and if they push them beyond the result is going to be very messy

b) It makess the contract awarder - the Department for Transport - and NOT the travelling public - into the major customer. You'll see proof of this, if it's proof that you need, in that the TOCs are providing the service that their major customer has specified, and not what their other customers (the travelling public) are asking for.   Look at the TransWilts service .... look at the moving of 2 coach units away from the Bristol 'burbs ... cut at DfT's request, moved at DfT's request, in spite of howls of anguish from travellers and (at least in the transwilts case) objections from county, district, town councils and MPs all along the route.

But this is destructive talk; I'm saying "it's broken" without actually suggesting a fix. Is it fixable?  It probably is, but if you talk to 20 experts you're likely to end up with 20 differing views.   And if I suggest something here' no-one's going to listen to little ole me, are they??   Still - I could dream / suggest / comment on a bidding system that's not pure cash driven - one that sets a price of (say) 800k and the asks "what can you do for that?" of the bidders.  Gives them a base specification and then encourages them to provide extra service ... such a mechanism is much more "fail safe", and it's much more about providing what the public will want (with a proviso that I'm trusting the DfT to accept bids that maximise the public usefulness rather than bids that do the most in key marginals).

An 900m GW franchise would give us a two-hourly train on the TransWilts.  It would give us Oxford to Yeovil, in fact. It would give us an hourly Severn Beach to Westbury, with alternate extensions to Weymouth. It would even give us a 2 hourly Chippenham to Southampton via the airport there, and stations at Lacock, Staverton/Holt, White Horse and Wilton.  Ah - we're actually getting somewhere.

I wondered ... what does the 200m that the treasury has not received under this new system actually cosy in other terms?   Well if you look at
        http://www.york.ac.uk/admin/presspr/pressreleases/costiraqwar.htm
you'll find that the Iraq war was estimated - over a year ago - to be costing 7.5 billion.  That's about 40 TIMES what I'm suggesting should be used to fund a proper 10 years investment.  But you know, it's not even going to be that expensive.  Make that extra use of rail, you save on road building - it has a place but not a predominant place. You save on road fatalities. You save on environment. You save on time wasted in traffic jams.

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2006, 11:05:55 AM »

I wondered ... what does the 200m that the treasury has not received under this new system actually cosy in other terms?   Well if you look at
        http://www.york.ac.uk/admin/presspr/pressreleases/costiraqwar.htm
you'll find that the Iraq war was estimated - over a year ago - to be costing 7.5 billion.  That's about 40 TIMES what I'm suggesting should be used to fund a proper 10 years investment.  But you know, it's not even going to be that expensive.  Make that extra use of rail, you save on road building - it has a place but not a predominant place. You save on road fatalities. You save on environment. You save on time wasted in traffic jams.

It is VERY interesting that you put it like that , Graham.

People tend to assume that Beeching was entirely misguided (his report was certainly so in many areas) However , take a look at the quotes below , which come from the very same infamous document :

"It might pay to run railways at a loss in order to prevent the incidence of an even greater cost which would arise elsewhere if the railways were closed. Such other costs may be deemed to arise from congestion, provision of parking space, injury and death, additional road building, or a number of other causes."

However , Beeching reached the following conclusion :

"It is not thought that any of the firm proposals put forward in this Report would be altered by the introduction of new factors for the purpose of judging overall social benefit. Only in the case of suburban services around some of the larger cities is there clear likelihood that a purely commercial decision within the existing framework of judgment would conflict with a decision based upon total social benefit. Therefore, in those instances, no firm proposals have been made but attention has been drawn to the necessity for study and decision."

In my view , "study and decision" is taking place right now , and is reaching the wrong conclusion in the form of "demand management." (see quote below.)

Here is one of the aims of the "Growing the Railways" campaign :"Extra lines, links and platforms at Bristol Templemeads − a key transport centre for the South West, is urgently crying out for extra capacity."

The link below highlights the task ahead for Transport 2000 and their supporters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/F?thread=3372345

The re - shaping of Bristol Suburban rail services is , in fact , an extension of the DfT concept known as "demand management." This concept is explained by the following recent parliamentary written answer :

Sarah McCarthy-Fry: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what plans he has to encourage the use of public transport by bus.

Gillian Merron: Within the context of delivering our long-term strategy for improving bus services across the country, the most recent steps taken by the Government include:

Providing local authorities in England with the resources to support their Local Transport Plan strategies, a large part of which are related to improving bus-related infrastructure (some £571 million invested by local authorities between 2001-02 and 2004-05 in bus improvements);

The introduction of free local concessionary fares for older and disabled people from April 2006, and the announcement of free national concessionary fares from April 2008;

Up to £200 million per year of the Transport Innovation Fund (from 2008-09) has been made available specifically to support packages of measures that will address congestion in towns and cities through demand management and public transport improvements, including better bus services;

Allocating £20 million to fund 43 Kickstart schemes to pump-prime promising local bus services;

£54 million available for 2006-07 to support rural bus services.

Providing capital funding for major bus schemes, such as the £42 million contribution towards the Greater Bristol Bus Network scheme.

Over the coming months we will be looking at the success of these, and other initiatives, with a view to developing future plans to encourage bus use.

This concept is one of the reasons why , between them , The DfT and First have pledged to invest £62 million in the Bristol Showcase Bus Routes Scheme , and also why the SRA were keen on the aspiration of a Worle multi - modal interchange , whilst rejecting most of the other aspirations considered as part of the Great Western Main Line Route Utilisation Strategy  (links below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=476.msg1408#msg1408
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=421.msg1243#msg1243

Another reason that the DfT and First favour a rail - replacement bus corridor (and see it as "best value") between Yate & Weston - super - Mare is because the northern section (Yate - Bristol) is proposed to run via Mangotsfield. This option is not available rail - wise because the Mangotsfield line was closed in 1966 (although the trackbed still exists , see link below.)
http://www.bristol-rail.co.uk/mangotsfield.php

Here are some quotes from the original Beeching Report :

"In most cases there will eventually be no passenger service of any description over the lines affected. In others, fast and semi-fast services using the same routes will continue to run. In still other cases it is intended to modify the pattern of services, both stopping and fast, in ways which will reduce the train mileage and cut out the more uneconomic portions of services and under-utilised stations."

"These proposals do not include all the stopping passenger services now running. Reshaping and streamlining the pattern of these services must be a continuing process. As this proceeds other services and stations will be added to the withdrawal and modification lists until a point is reached when what remains can be said to be viable."

"As in the case of London, fares on these services feeding other cities are low, sometimes very low, and none of them pays its way. There is no possibility of a solution being found, however, merely by increasing or by reducing fares. Increases in fares on rail services alone would drive traffic to available alternative modes of travel and yield little increase in revenue, if any. Decreases would increase traffic, but short peak periods of traffic at even saturation level would not support the services with fares lower than at present. Therefore, if the services are to be regarded as essential, the municipalities concerned must join with the railways and bus interests to evolve a co-ordinated system of services, with due regard to the economics of both forms of transport. It is, for example, illogical to operate subsidised municipal bus services in competition with unprofitable railway services, without any attempt to co-ordinate them."

"If, on the other hand, the services are not regarded as essential and coordination is not found possible, the sound commercial course is for the railways to risk pricing themselves out of the business and then, if necessary, close the services."

"The right solution is most likely to be found by 'Total Social Benefit Studies' of the kind which are now being explored by the Ministry of Transport and British Railways jointly. In cases of the type under consideration it may be cheaper to subsidise the railways than to bear the other cost burdens which will arise if they are closed. If this happens, however, there should be no feeling that the railways are being propped up by such a subsidy because of a commercial failure."

This process is currently taking place in places such as Liverpool (where First are now recieving subsidy for running certain bus services where none was needed before) and Sheffield. Fast , minimum - subsidy , inter -urban & suburban services are replacing , or will replace , slower , more traditional suburban services which are more heavily subsidised and take up more capacity. Many smaller suburban stations either have had , or will have a reshaped , reduced or withdrawn service as a result (links below.)
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16847372&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=train-fares-set-to-rise-but-station-closures-ruled-out--name_page.html
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/08/we_dont_need_the_200mph_rail_l.html#more
http://www.stopthetrain.org.uk/newfare.cfm
http://www.stopthetrain.org.uk/beeching.cfm
http://www.firstgroup.com/ftr/ourpartners/index.php

Expect this to happen in Bristol as the Greater Western Franchise profile moves from subsidy to premium and the business profile of the bus network moves in the other direction.

This approach is entirely consistant with the provisions of the Future Of Transport White Paper (link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_about/documents/page/dft_about_031274.hcsp

"5.17 We intend to give Passenger Transport Authorities the ability to choose whether to channel subsidy towards rail or other forms of public transport. In some cases, buses might provide both a better service and better value for money."

"5.18 We recognise that Passenger Transport Authorities may not be willing to consider this unless they can be certain that bus routes, timings and fares will meet passenger needs and work well with the national timetable. We will amend the Transport Act 2000 to make it easier for Passenger Transport Authorities to introduce Quality Contracts as part of a strategy that includes modification of rail services."

"5.19 Passenger Transport Authorities will be able to decide whether to take greater control of their bus routes and associated budgets by deciding which rail routes are best value and which would be more efficiently replaced by bus services."

Both Liverpool & Sheffield are part of an area of the North that is extremely important from a railfreight perspective , as is Bristol from a South West railfreight perspective.

Network Rail consider capacity between Yate & Weston - super - Mare to be a major issue. A railfreight terminal has been approved for Exeter , and sites for other such terminals have been proposed in or at Cornwall , Plymouth , Weston - super - Mare , Severn Beach and Yate (Westerleigh.) In addition to this , freight traffic from Avonmouth & Portbury (on the Portishead line , click on the link below) is likely to increase.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=455.msg1327#msg1327

All of the above will require train paths on the same lines as are used by the services contained in the quote below.

Graham , I think that you would disagree with the quote below.

"During off-peak periods, regional and local services carry predominantly leisure traffic and flows tend to be light with most trains formed of 2 cars and average load factors generally under 30%."

Of course , as we know only too well , the SRA applied this false logic to the Swindon - Southampton service (link below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/138_Lies_damned_lies_and_statistics.html

It should also be remembered that Keynsham & Oldfield Park lie on the approved Bristol - Bath A4 Showcase Bus Route. (links below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4747277.stm
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=291.msg789#msg789

Here is some information on Worle station :

1) 180 car parking spaces available.
2) Lies on the approved Bristol - Weston - Super - Mare Showcase Bus Route.
3) Is next to Junction 21 of the M5.
4) Is next to the main Weston - Super - Mare approach road.
5) Is situated just before the point where the Weston - Super - Mare line branches off the Bristol - Taunton line.

Here is some of the land listed by BRB (Residuary.) on their website.

http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Pilning
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Patchway
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Melksham
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Frome
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Yatton
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Severn+Beach
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Weston+Super

The former sidings at Weston - Super - Mare are on the Bristol - Exeter line and are up for sale with the following restriction :

"ONLY AVAILABLE FOR RAIL FREIGHT USE"

Here are some more examples of BRB (Residuary) website listings with similiar resrictions.

http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Aldermaston
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Alloa
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Blaenau+Ffestiniog
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Carlisle+Cumbria
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Great+Yarmouth
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Greenford
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Irvine
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Iver+Berkshire
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Langley+Mill
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Market+Harborough
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Newhaven
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Plymouth
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Sunderland
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Theale
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Toton
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Mossend
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Westbury
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Law+South+Lanarkshire

There is even a brochure (link below.)
http://www.rfg.org.uk/news/?pid=3158&lsid=3159&edname=21022.htm&ped=21022

Here is a quote from the Weston - Super - Mare section of the brochure.

"The site is on the up side of the Bristol to Exeter line. There are no rail connections and early consultation with Network Rail to determine connectivity and the availability of train paths is recommended."

A further example from the brochure can be found at Westerleigh , near Yate (link below.)
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Westerleigh

Yate also lies on an approved Bristol Showcase Bus Route.

Aspiration - Worle station development.

Current position - Local authority is promoting development of Worle station as a multi-modal interchange serving the Weston – super – Mare area, with longer platforms to enable long distance services to call. Third party funding may be available.

Current SRA view - Worth further investigation. Potentially a good site to serve land use developments in the Weston – super – Mare area and has good access to the strategic road network.

Aspiration - Additional through services between London and Weston-super-Mare.

Current SRA view - Whilst early and late in the day sufficient demand exists to justify extensions of Paddington-Bristol services from/to Weston, there is insufficient demand to justify additional services in the middle of the day.

Aspiration - Improved cross-Bristol service patterns.

Current SRA view - Recommended for implementation.

Of the cross-Bristol services included in the final FGW December 2006 Timetable , one parallels the proposed Bristol Showcase Bus Routes to Weston - Super - Mare & Yate & the other contains three "lightly - used" or "low - footfall" stations. Neither calls at Stapleton Road or Lawrence Hill as part of their standard pattern.

A cynic would suggest that they were being prepared for withdrawal (and closure of Bedminster , Parson Street , Weston Milton , Cam & Dursley & Yate - "why not get one of our super showcase buses")  , which would leave just the London - Weston - super - Mare / Taunton & West Country service (possibly with extra Highbridge & Bridgwater stops.) Want to travel from Nailsea & Backwell , Weston - super - Mare or Yatton outside of these times? Showcase bus.

Highbridge & Bridgwater?

Drive or get a bus to Worle and connect into the new stop provided in the fast Cross - Country service which will take you straight into Bristol.

Cynical old me.

One final question :

"A new pattern of service across Bristol, with trains to Bristol from Worcester and Gloucester being amalgamated with trains to Weston-super-Mare and Taunton, and trains to Bristol from Cardiff being amalgamated with trains to Westbury, Weymouth and Southampton. This pattern will not only provide new through journey opportunities, but also improve performance by relieving the congestion caused at Bristol Temple Meads by a multiplicity of terminating trains."

How come several "cross - Bristol" trains have long waits at Bristol Temple Meads built into the timetable then? (see links below.)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/Rev%20Dec%20TTs/SX%20-%20Gt%20Malvern%20-%20Worcester%20-%20Gloucester%20-%20Bristol%20-%20Taunton.pdf
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/Rev%20Dec%20TTs/SX%20-%20Cardiff%20-%20Bristol%20to%20Weymouth%20-%20Portsmouth%20-%20Brighton.pdf

Re - shaping the above services as described would , according to SLC2 , free up no less than 69 train paths per weekday.

The challenge for "Growing the Railways" will lie in exerting enough influence & pressure on the DfT , in order to force them to change their current policy direction to such an extent that the aims of the campaign can be fulfilled.

Not an easy task.

Melksham is about to have its train service reduced to two round trips a day , despite a rise in passenger numbers from 3,000 to 27,000 in 5 years. I would suggest that an excellent way of "Growing the Railways" would be for Transport 2000 to make a public demand to the DfT to provide a 2 - hourly Westbury - Swindon service from December 2006. In my view , this would make the perfect centrepiece of the early part of their campaign.

I will be watching for such an announcement with great interest.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2006, 11:08:47 AM »

Worle station development has now made the Third Party Promoted Schemes list contained within the Cross Country Franchise Consultation Document (see below.)

Here are three Third Party Promoted Schemes listed on page 32 of the Cross Country Franchise Consultation Document (link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_railways/documents/page/dft_railways_611834.pdf

Worcester Parkway.

Worcestershire County Council has undertaken studies in 2002 and 2004 to assess the feasibility of a new park and ride station in Worcester to provide access to national long distance rail services. Further business case development work is required.

Worle Strategic Interchange.

North Somerset Council, together with a consortium of partners, has an aspiration to improve Worle station to facilitate calls by inter-city services, provide improved park and ride facilities and allow for better interchange with the M5. Further feasibility and business case development work is required.

Gloucestershire Parkway station.

Gloucestershire County Council have an objective to deliver a park and ride new station near Gloucester and are currently undertaking detailed timetabling and feasibility work. Earlier studies indicated a potentially viable business case. Should funding be secured Gloucestershire County Council anticipate completion of the station by 2011 with an integrated bus, park and ride and railway station.

First , have a look at a map and note the surrounding areas of each of the above proposed stations plus Bristol Parkway.

Then imagine the likely stopping pattern of the new Cross Country Franchise trains , proposed to be 2 per hour between Birmingham & Bristol and 1 per hour continuing south of Bristol. The proposed service frequencies of the new franchise can be found on page 24 of the Consultation Document and a map can be found on page 37.

Then note this proposal from "Growing the Railways."

"Provide a decent station at Bromsgrove − this would have the potential to double or even treble patronage in the short term."

You can see why I am concerned.

1) Worcester Parkway , Worle Strategic Interchange & Gloucestershire Parkway station have made the magic Third Party Promoted Schemes list. Check out the list of aspirations contained in the new stations and major station changes section of the Great Western Main Line Route Utilisation Strategy for an indication of just how difficult a feat this is to acheive (Pages 83 - 88 of the link below.)
http://www.sra.gov.uk/pubs2/stratpolplan/GWMLRUS/GWRUS.pdf

All 3 of the schemes listed above were given a relatively positive write - up by the SRA , in stark contrast to almost all the other schemes listed.

2) Virgin (or whoever wins the Cross Country Franchise) is very unlikely to have a say in the matter. If the DfT want , then they will change the specification to get.

My proposals would turn this strategy on its head by compelling the Cross Country TOC to provide extra stops as detailed below.

CROSS COUNTRY FRANCHISE SERVICES (see link below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=491.msg1506#msg1506

"RER 3" Plymouth - Ivybridge - Totnes - Newton Abbot - Exeter St Davids - Tiverton Parkway - Taunton - Bridgwater - Highbridge & Burnham - Worle - Bristol Temple Meads - Filton Abbey Wood - Bristol Parkway - Yate - Cam & Dursley - Gloucester Parkway - Cheltenham Spa - Ashchurch for Tewkesbury - Worcester Parkway and beyond (Hourly) Service would be "RER" branded between Bridgwater - Cam & Dursley. The hourly Bristol - Birmingham and beyond Cross - Country service would also call at Filton Abbey Wood , Bristol Parkway , Yate and Cam & Dursley , thus providing a half - hourly "RER" service between these points.

Although a slower Cross - Country service would be a disbenefit , this would be outweighed by the undoubted potential environmental , social and passenger revenue benefits.

Unless this is done , the Greater Bristol Area is likely to end up with a "railhead" fast inter - urban rail service & the closure of almost all of its suburban stations.

This process of running down the Suburban Bristol rail services will begin in December 2006 with the transfer of 7 Class 143 units to Exeter depot to operate services on the Exmouth, Paignton and Barnstaple lines. These are likely to be replaced by the 7 remaining Class 153 units (not including the Southampton - Westbury shuttle ,which will run for 1 year only) , thus bringing a reduction in seating capacity from 104 seats per vehicle to 75 seats per vehicle. This will increase overcrowding , make revenue collection at peak times almost impossible , and force many passengers off the trains.

This will also have a knock - on effect for the Exmouth , Paignton and Barnstaple lines. Class 143 units were occasionally used on rural branch lines but this was generally avoided where possible due to problems with wheel wear and the noise on sharp corners. The transfer of these units from Bristol to Exeter is apparently at the request of the Department for Transport , and no indication has been given as to how the problems with sharp corners will be overcome.

This is likely to lead to breakdowns , cancellations and "revisions" (click on http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/138_Lies_damned_lies_and_statistics.html) . In turn , this will badly affect usage figures.

The above is compounded by the fact that the Class 143 units currently being deployed on the Severn Beach line are close to expiry & collapse (link below.)
http://www.fosbr.org.uk/Smoking%20train.htm
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2006, 11:24:48 AM »

South West Trains is installing extra handholds and creating “perches” in place of seats. Almost 500 carriages, including some which entered service only two years ago , will lose more than a fifth of their seats (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/10/q_how_do_you_get_more_passenge_1.html#more

The increase in empty floor space will allow the Government to claim that it is meeting targets on reducing overcrowding. Passengers with 0.54 square metres of floor space are not deemed to be on an overcrowded train. (That could , for example, be an area 60cm by 90cm , that is slightly less than three double-page spreads of The Times , which laid toe-to-toe measure 60cm by 108cm).

South West Trains is already officially the most overcrowded franchise and is forecast to carry 20 per cent more passengers by 2016. The Department for Transport does not consider a train to be overcrowded until there are more than 35 people standing for every 100 with seats. But South West Trains breaches even what the department describes as “the acceptable number of passengers in excess of capacity”.

The company, which carries 160 million passengers a year on a network stretching from the South Coast to London Waterloo, said that the changes “will allow more people to stand in comfort”.

SWT claimed last month that it would increase the number of seats on peak suburban services by 20 per cent under its new ten-year contract.

But when questioned by The Times, the company said that this had been a mistake and that much of the promised new capacity would be in the form of standing room rather than seats. Under the terms of the contract, it will add ten carriages to its fleet of 1,400.

In 2003 the Strategic Rail Authority proposed lengthening platforms on routes into Waterloo to accommodate trains with up to 12 carriages. The authority was abolished last year before it could make any progress towards this.

Network Rail made similar suggestions in March but admitted that there was no budget or timetable for the improvements. The Government made no mention of lengthening platforms when it awarded the new ten-year franchise last month.

Chris Grayling , the Shadow Transport Secretary , said: “We must provide longer trains rather than squeezing more standing passengers into existing carriages. It is unacceptable that people are paying more for their tickets but are increasingly less likely to get a seat.”
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 06:47:10 AM »

Yep, SWT aren't getting much good publicity out of this one.  I'm not a commuter into Waterloo so I have no first hand comment, but I do sense again a squeeze on the rolling stock.  I was speaking to the SWT stakeholder liaison director (I hope I have the right job title there) on Saturday and cleraly they do not have spare stock ... just like First are being cut back.

How much of the stock cuts are due to government edict / wanting to send trains to provide extra services in places such as Ebbw Vale and Aberystwyth, and how much is due to the punitive cost of a train leased from the ROSCOs, I'm not sure. I do know that a startling amount of evidence is being gathered of short formation trains and cancellations due to lack of available stock, with a possible competition review of the whole business in the offing.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 10:32:48 AM »

How much of the stock cuts are due to government edict / wanting to send trains to provide extra services in places such as Ebbw Vale and Aberystwyth, and how much is due to the punitive cost of a train leased from the ROSCOs, I'm not sure. I do know that a startling amount of evidence is being gathered of short formation trains and cancellations due to lack of available stock, with a possible competition review of the whole business in the offing.

Note the following quotes from the link below.
http://archive.southwalesargus.co.uk/2006/2/1/79998.html

"A report by expert consulants proposes a £155 million project which could include five new stations on existing lines, including Caerleon, Magor with Undy, Llanwern and Coedkernew."

"The report wants more trains on existing lines, including a second hourly service between Ebbw Vale and Newport. But the line - which previously was due to have one service an hour - is not due to open until 2009. An Argus campaign, which has received strong backing, has called for it to come into service much sooner."

"New half-hourly local services on the Abergavenny and Chepstow lines are also suggested."

And the "expert consultants" involved? Why , its our old friends......

"The South East Wales Transport Alliance (SEWTA) strategy, drawn up by Jacobs Consultancy, covers the period 2009-2018, and is now likely to go before Assembly leaders."

I need hardly remind you of the following links , although they might be useful for new site visitors.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=464.msg1354#msg1354
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=519.msg1511#msg1511
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=518.msg1510#msg1510

The Ebbw Vale line is now expected to open in the summer of 2007. (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/5386240.stm

I think im pretty sure which way I am leaning on this one , Graham.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 04:54:39 PM »

From the Ivybridge Rail Users Group website (link below.)
http://www.irug.ik.com/

"A recent announcement by the DfT has declared that SWT has won the franchise to operate trains in the south of England. Also the proposed loss of services west of Exeter expected soon after the the new franchise begins will now not take place until 2010 whilst improvements to the line and track dualling east of Honiton are under way. These improvements are not expected to be completed until 2009 at the earliest. This is good news for Ivybridge and other stations west of Exeter as it means the SWT services will continue to serve Ivybridge for at least another 3 years."

This DfT press release does appear to confirm this (link below.)
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=228996&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

Quotes from the above link :

"* Services will run west of Exeter (to Plymouth and Paignton) as today, to be reviewed when the hourly Waterloo - Exeter service commences."

"9. Priced Options: DfT will buy the following priced options in addition to the base case. These are:

* Bristol - Waterloo services will be retained throughout the franchise, operating as today

* A new hourly Waterloo - Exeter service will be operated on completion of a Network Rail funded infrastructure project

* Further increase in station security such that 95% of passengers across the franchise area will be travelling through stations with Secure Stations Accreditation."

It would appear that the Bristol - Waterloo service has been SAVED.

"* A new hourly service linking Salisbury, Romsey, Southampton and Southampton Airport Parkway (also serving Eastleigh and Chandlers Ford) in December 2007"

A couple of questions :

How many services will call at Chandlers Ford?

Dean & Dunbridge are not mentioned. How many services will call at each?

It would also appear that "Growing The Railways" has had its first success.

Have a look at a railway map of Great Britain, and you may feel there's something of a concentration of passenger railway stations and a network of lines in Labour held areas, whereas yellow and blue areas have a thin train service.  Perhaps that's natural because of the difference between urban and rural areas, but I am mindful that certain current services such as Swansea to Shrewsbury have survived because of the politics.  "It runs through six marginal constituencies" is what's been said about them Central Wales line.

Transport 2000 have just launched a "Growing the Railways" campaign. See
http://www.transport2000.org.uk/news/maintainNewsArticles.asp?NewsArticleID=324
and I note a number of projects / aspirations that I would fully support in there.   But I'm alarmed by what they've left out; in the South West area, they include Exeter and Bristol only - no mention of some of the opportunities in Cornwall, nor schemes such as Frome to Radstock, nor our own TransWilts.

A Transport 2000 member wrote to me that "I tried to interest them in Melksham fo this campaign but to no avail ...".  I appreciate that they were looking for just over a dozen examples for the press launch, but they've done themselves no favours in that (as far as I can see) all but two of those examples are for areas where the passenger traffic to be supported would be for residents of labour marginals.  It seems that there are no level playing fields in this game!

Campaign quote :

"Salisbury to Exeter line − this line is the weak link to the South West and desperately needs dualling to provide more frequent services."
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 03:04:00 PM »

From the Ivybridge Rail Users Group website (link below.)
http://www.irug.ik.com/

"A recent announcement by the DfT has declared that SWT has won the franchise to operate trains in the south of England. Also the proposed loss of services west of Exeter expected soon after the the new franchise begins will now not take place until 2010 whilst improvements to the line and track dualling east of Honiton are under way. These improvements are not expected to be completed until 2009 at the earliest. This is good news for Ivybridge and other stations west of Exeter as it means the SWT services will continue to serve Ivybridge for at least another 3 years."

This DfT press release does appear to confirm this (link below.)
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=228996&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

Quotes from the above link :

"* Services will run west of Exeter (to Plymouth and Paignton) as today, to be reviewed when the hourly Waterloo - Exeter service commences."

Ivybridge can lay a reasonable claim to being the most successful of all the campaigns against service cuts. Originally , they were to lose ALL BUT SIX of their current 24 services per weekday , but have managed to SAVE (at least for now) ALL BUT SIX services.

Another impressive acheivement of the Ivybridge campaign is the fact that they have managed (at least for now) to save the key peak commuter / student services , which , unlike in many other areas , will actually run at times that passengers will want to use them. There will also be a reasonable , if not perfect , spread of Ivybridge off - peak services (see link below.)
http://www.irug.ik.com/pub/CustomerSites/communitykit/son-041201201430.nsf/0/39663E0C689F1CF98025718B00414360?OpenDocument

The circumstances surrounding the granting of the "extra" services for Ivybridge were interesting to say the least (link below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=295.msg796#msg796

It is also true that Labour support in both Plymouth constituencies dropped dramatically at the last general election (links below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/458.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/457.stm

However , the main reason behind the campaign's success is undoubtably the enormous efforts of the Ivybridge Rail Users Group , who are also strong supporters of Save The Train and others.

In my view , a well - deserved early victory in the "wider war."
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 02:30:21 PM »

National Rail Enquiries is showing 6 trains each way serving Ivybridge on Saturdays from December 2006 but JUST ONE train each way on Sundays.
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