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Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« on: December 05, 2007, 09:01:23 PM »

A new petition has been launched, campaigning for better infrastructure- ie double track- on FGWs Cotswold line! Please sign it. Please tell your friends/advertise it. The url is below:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Cotswold/

Many thanks! Smiley
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 05:03:30 AM »

Hi, William.  I'll say what I know about this ... can you fill in with more?

The Oxford to Worcester line was reduced from double track throughout to single track in the 1960s - just like the line from Thingley Junction to Bradford Junction on the TransWilts was - and the single track sections now provide a major bottleneck.  I know that WE are worried on the "TransWilts" about a lack of capacity if freight traffic increases further, and already some of he proposals we're putting forward are having to be modified to provide a less-that-ideal set of timings because of availability of the single track ("a head on collision every 2 hours" I wrote about one suggestion!) ... and redoubling here would be sensible in the next 10 years or so, and relatively cheap compared to some alternative transport enhancements in the corridor where earthworks are not yet in place ....
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 09:56:43 AM »

A new petition has been launched, campaigning for better infrastructure- ie double track- on FGWs Cotswold line! Please sign it. Please tell your friends/advertise it. The url is below:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Cotswold/

Many thanks! Smiley

Before I sign , can you confirm that you are in favour of providing the required extra platforms at Ascott - under - Wychwood , Combe and Finstock , and that these stations will not be shut on cost grounds if the line is redoubled?
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 11:45:31 AM »

I personally think that complete re-doubling of the whole line will not get approved any time soon due to the costs involved, whilst Graham is right in that earthworks are largely in place, the track in many sections has been realigned to allow higher speeds and slews from one side of the former double track to the other, so unfortunately it's not just a case of plonking another track down next to the existing one.

Also, Lee has a valid point regarding Ascott-U-W, Combe and Finstock. As well as those smaller stations, the larger stations at Hanborough, Charlbury, Honeybourne and Pershore would have to have additional platforms added (though the old platforms are substantially complete still at Honeybourne and Pershore).

Personally, I think that a more modest scheme should be called for as (given the current cost or re-instating railway infrastructure) that is much more likely to be funded, and would provide real, tangible improvements that are deperately required so that a punctual, slightly faster, hourly (half-hourly in peak) service can operate.

I would suggest some, if not all, of the following improvements covering the Oxford-Norton Junction section should be included (although many of the problems with capacity are connected with the outdated signalling and track layouts at Worcester and Malvern too of course!)

1) Resignalling with colour-light Track Circuit Block signals throughout, replacing Norton Junction, Evesham, Moreton and Ascott signalboxes and associated token equipment.
2) Redoubling of short sections immediately beyond Wolvercote and Norton Juntions to enable trains waiting to go onto the single line to not have to block the main line whilst they wait.
3) Passing loops to be installed within the single track sections to virtually double capacity for service recovery, one in the Pershore area, one in the Chipping Camden area, and one between Finstock and Hanborough (there are two long straight sections of track which are ideal for this as the track has not been moved from the original days).
4) Line-speed increases from 75 to 90+ on most of the Moreton to Evesham section (with the exception of Aston Magna curve and possibly between Camden Tunnel and Honeybourne where track curvature would prevent this).
5) Upgrade of Switches & Crossings (S&C) at Norton Junction in the down directon to increase linespeed from 25mph to 70mph.
6) Upgrade of S&C at Evesham to allow 50mph working throughout station area.
7) Upgrade of S&C at Moreton to increase up direction working off the single line from 15mph to 40mph.
Cool Upgrade of S&C at Ascott so that up trains can enter the single line section at 75mph instead of 40mph.
9) Upgrade of S&C at Wolvercote Junction from 40mph to 60mph both directions.

Apologies if this is a little in-depth, but I believe that a good financial case could be made for the above schemes, and that they would help to vastly reduce delays on the Cotswold Line, give adequate capacity for an hourly off-peak service (with room for extra trains in the peak) and also speed up services so that Worcester is within the important aspirational journey time of 1hour to Oxford and 2hrs to London whilst largely maintaining the current calling patterns.

What do people think?
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2007, 07:36:09 AM »

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I think you know a lot more about this than I do  Grin ....  but all the suggestions about which I can comment seem sane and sensible.  Personally I have to measure them against my own local "I wish it were redoubled" case.

Point number 2 (a short stretch of double track just at the entrance to the line) seems like an excellent starter for robusteness and whilst it might not do much for the actual services on the Cotswold line itself, it would set up an environment where the timetable didn't have to be planned to mitigate the effect of any delays.  My local comparison would  be to suggest a double track section sufficient to hold a train just beyond Thingley Junction, and another at Bradford Junction ... then there would be less fear of TransWilts services blocking the London to Bristol line at Chippenham, or the Portsmouth to Cardiff at Trowbridge.

Industry Insider - your input provides a good insite into alternatives here.  You don't by any change have any very rough guesses as to the relative cost of each suggestion / gains that would be made / cost of William's whole scheme do you?  Or perhaps this isn't quite the right forum and it might get a wider coverage and informed discussion on the coffeeshop?

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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2007, 10:32:26 AM »

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Industry Insider - your input provides a good insite into alternatives here.  You don't by any change have any very rough guesses as to the relative cost of each suggestion / gains that would be made / cost of William's whole scheme do you?  Or perhaps this isn't quite the right forum and it might get a wider coverage and informed discussion on the coffeeshop?


Basically I wouldn't have a clue  Cheesy However when you consider the cost of Projext Evergreen (stage 1) on the Chiltern Line which cost around £30 million I think and redoubled just a few miles of track and no station improvements, the cost of redoubling the line would, I guess, be absolutely enourmous.

My suggestions certainly wouldn't be cheap and completed by the local odd-job man, but when you consider that by replacing out-dated, costly to run and maintain semaphore signals and token equipment and no less than four signalboxes and the staff that have to run them, with one signalling centre (at Worcester as part of a staged replacement of all 'boxes' in the area perhaps?) using modern, reliable LED colours-light signals, then the outlay would be recouped sooner than you'd think.

As for passing loops, comparitively cheap to install and think about the time saving. The section from Wolvercote to Ascott takes about 15-18 minutes for a train with typical stops included - just think about the delay savings that could be made per annum if you were to halve this section time? The other two sections are of similar length too.

And replacement of S&C equipment of course takes place every 15-20 years or so anyway. Apart from Wolvercote Junction I don't think any of the locations I've mentioned for improvement have been replaced within the last 10 years, and the time saved by a train having to decelerate from 75 to 40 and back to 75 again can literally add minutes to the schedule.
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2008, 12:19:58 AM »

Some feedback on Industry Insider's proposals from the First Great Western Coffee Shop Forum :

With reference to Industry Insider's suggestions, as a short term solution, why not adopt those ideas plus extend the length of the double track section in the middle. Start by redoubling Evesham to Moreton (how often do the early morning Hereford trains have to wait at Evesham) then Ascott to (say) Charlbury.

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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 12:32:28 PM »

The expected Network Rail announcement during February has now slipped to mid-March with silence prevailing still... Angry
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 02:35:08 PM »

Oxford Mail article link.
http://oxfordmail.co.uk/display.var.2172240.0.rail_improvements_on_track.php

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Moves to improve the Cotswold Line rail route between Oxford and Worcester took a step forward today, when Network Rail indicated its preferred option for the project.

"This would see double track reinstated for four miles from Finstock, near Charlbury, to Ascott-under-Wychwood, and on the 16-mile section from Moreton-in-Marsh, in Gloucestershire, to Evesham, in Worcestershire.

Isnt there a meeting in Charlbury tonight? What excellent timing  Grin
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=1975.msg14682#msg14682

Are new/restored platforms at Finstock, Charlbury, Ascott-under-Wychwood and Honeybourne included in the preferred option?
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2008, 04:02:30 PM »

Timing that's almost too co-incendental, Lee!  Wink

Good news as a first step towards modernising this main line, though I will be interested to hear more detail when they are released as to the connected infrastructure/signalling works that will be included - including the station situation.

I would imagine the section of double track will commence after Finstock station as there's no chance the linespeed could not be affected on the curve through the station with two tracks/platforms otherwise. Platforms situations at Charlbury, Ascott and Honeybourne need clarifying though - though anybody who's been to Honeybourne will recognise that the old platform is in marvelous shape still and will need little more that a bit of packing and a layer of tarmac to almost accommodate a full-length HST (plus a footbridge of course)!

Over to the Government, err, sorry, the ORR, to give it the green light.

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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 04:20:28 PM »

Further article quote :

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After a £150,000 year-long feasibility study, Network Rail has included the project in its updated Strategic Business Plan, which was submitted to the Office of Rail Regulation today.

Although the redoubling scheme is not among the improvement projects the Government has indicated it is prepared to fund from 2009-14, the rail infrastructure firm is understood to believe it has a strong business case for the plan and can show it has wider benefits for the route between London, Reading, Didcot and Oxford.

The ORR is expected to give its verdict in June.

The Network Rail Strategic Business Plan Update can be found in the link below.
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/4357.aspx
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 10:08:38 PM »

News from tonights Charlbury meeting, taken from the First Great Western Coffee Shop Forum :

Just back from meeting, NR route manager and FGW route manager there. NR manager claimed that the solution they are proposing will deliver 95% of the benefits at 33% of the cost of a full redoubling mainly due to not having to get into the Oxford signalling or tunnels at the Hereford end.

If ORR give go ahaed for funding (june decision) then first sod cut in Jan09, finished May 2010.

Platforms and footbridges included in funding plan.

Lots more said at meeting, will try and note it down in another  thread but thought that this might be relavent to this thread.

Platforms and footbridges included in funding plan.

Does that means all possibly affected stations- i.e Finstock, Charlbury, Ascott-under-Wychwood and Honeybourne?

So this would leave single track sections of 9 miles at either end with a central double track section of around 30 miles. That would certainly appear to have a lot more operational flexibility than currently, and I guess the timetable would be planned that the services crossed somewhere in the middle of the double section, affording for plenty of margin for error if one service is running late. 

Lee,

Finstock would still be on the single line, the doubling would stop about 0.5mile to the Oxford side of Charlbury. NR manager didnt name stations but stated four footbridges.

Made the claim that this would allow at least hourly service.

Some improvements to freight lines and Bicester line to allow passenger trains to wait without blocking main line will assist in reducing problems due to remaining Wolvercote-finstock bit of single line.

The big cost for complete redoubling would be the Oxford signalling, this is not due for replacement yet, if this needs altering then the whole lot gets done which is a huge cost which would prevent it going in th strategic plan.

If and when the Oxford station environs get resignalled than a possibility not excluded by the current plan is a phase 2 to redouble the remaining work at a later stage.
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2008, 08:43:05 AM »

Further Coffee Shop quote :

Station work-wise there would have to be new platforms at Charlbury and Ascott-under-Wychwood, but at Honeybourne, the old island platform (Stratford-upon-Avon and Cheltenham services used the opposite face) is pretty much intact and could be brought back into use relatively easily. The question here is whether the whole length would be restored to use, as it could probably take a 2+8 HST, in contrast to the three-coach platform on the single line.

Not clear on footbridge locations (though CBY and HYB are obvious), but if they are going to spend the money, then Kingham really could do with a new disabled/cycle/baby buggy-accessible bridge while they are at it, because if you can't manage steps, then you can't reach the Oxford/London-bound platform at present.

After questions about parking at Charlbury station - and people leaving cars in the town and walking down to the station - Dave Ward, Network Rail's western route director, said at the meeting tonight that he would be taking up the issue of providing adequate car parking at all the stations on the route with the team in charge of the project, as station facilities are very much part of the equation.

More parking could be tricky, as previously noted, at Shipton. And new housing at Honeybourne has eaten up what would have been an ideal area to extend into, though there is a lot of railway-owned land on the opposite side, behind the island platform, with disused sidings on, so maybe there is parking potential there.

However, if the shortlisted eco-town at Long Marston were to go ahead (and it would only make eco-sense if the rail link through to Stratford upon Avon is reinstated - and maybe even to Cheltenham via the Gloucester & Warwickshire preserved line - then they may need to reinvent Honeybourne Junction in all its four-platform glory, along with the spectacular triangular and burrowing junctions just to the east (the GWR didn't do things by halves in the 1900s). How about a Birmingham-Worcester-Evesham-Honeybourne-Long Marston-Stratford-Birmingham circular route and Stratford-Oxford via the Cotswold Line?

And let's not forget Chipping Campden, where Gloucestershire County Council has long had aspirations to reopen the station. Until now, lack of capacity on the single line has always stymied this, but a green light for double track would change the equation here.

Certainly interesting times in these parts.

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Shame it will take so long...

Give them a break - in rail project terms, this is warp speed. They are talking 15 months of work, while keeping trains running for as much of that time as possible. All told it would be just over three years from starting study work to completion, which compares pretty well with Chiltern's redoubling schemes.

Now all we've got to do is hope that D(a)fT and the ORR see sense.
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Re: Petition for double track on Cotswold Line...
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 08:58:14 PM »

Commuters fed up with delays and cancellations are being urged to bombard Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly with letters in support of the upgrade scheme (link below.)
http://www.oxfordmail.net/display.var.2241581.0.signal_support_for_rail_update.php

The appeal comes from the county council, which says it is "taking nothing for granted" over plans to reinstate double track on 20 miles of the Cotswold Line, at an estimated cost of at least £51m.

Network Rail is seeking consent to spend the money from the ORR and is expecting a decision early next month.

The overall effect of this, and more double track in Gloucestershire and Worcestershire, according to Oxfordshire County Council's rail development officer Adrian Saunders, would benefit commuters into and out of Oxford and beyond.

The council is writing to Ms Kelly and urging commuters to do the same.

Quote from: Hansard
Mr. Drew: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport which (a) hon. Members and (b) local authorities have made representations to (i) her and (ii) Network Rail on the re-doubling of (A) the Kemble to Swindon line and (B) the North Cotswold line. [201574]

Mr. Tom Harris: The following hon. Members have made written representations to the Department in the last three years:

Swindon—Kemble line

Geoffrey Clinton-Brown MP

David Drew MP

Mark Harper MP

Sir Malcolm Rifkind MP

Laurence Robertson MP

North Cotswold line

David Cameron MP

Geoffrey Clinton-Brown MP

David Drew MP

Michael Foster MP

Peter Luff MP

John Maples MP

We have received no written representations from local authorities about either line during this period.

Better late than never, eh  Grin
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