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High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« on: August 31, 2006, 10:24:40 AM »

A plan to build a 200mph North-South rail line is expected to be abandoned because the Government’s chief transport adviser has concluded that it would be too expensive and deliver too few benefits (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/08/we_dont_need_the_200mph_rail_l.html#more
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 08:11:23 PM »

There has been quite a bit of talk about a high speed line in the media today (heard it on the news and seen on TV) I believe the shadow chancellor is currentlt in Japan checking out the Maglev trains.  These use electromagnetic fields to propel the train.  This is explained in this link:

http://travel.howstuffworks.com/maglev-train.htm

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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2006, 11:14:37 AM »

I believe the shadow chancellor is currentlt in Japan checking out the Maglev trains.

He is not the only one who has been looking into this , Nick (link below.)
http://www.500kmh.com/
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 10:40:46 AM »

Quite a debate has now begun on this (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5319200.stm

What I find interesting is that , as the link above points out , Britain has been caught out before by its attitude to railway innovation.

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"Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, the UK was one of the leading developers of tilting trains.

As their name suggests, they tilt when going round bends, allowing for faster speeds.

Despite trying out a number of what were then called Advanced Passenger Trains, state-owned British Rail quickly mothballed the technology, blaming a number of technical problems and lack of support from government.

Yet where the UK gave up, other countries continued to develop tilting trains.

Fast forward to today and Virgin Trains' West Coast mainline runs tilting trains - designed and built in Italy."
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 02:36:43 PM »

Christian Wolmar (quoted in the BBC link contained in the post above) expands on why he thinks that Maglev isnt viable in this article (link below.)
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/rail/548.shtml
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 06:15:17 PM »

23 people died in Germany yesterday when a Maglev train crashed into a maintenance vehicle at 120mph (193km/h)(link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/09/monorail_train_crash_leaves_23.html#more

The test track from Lathen to Doerpen is 31.8km (20 miles) long and tourists regularly go on trips along it.
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2006, 01:28:13 PM »

A high speed train travelling at 220mph taking passengers from Glasgow to London in less than three hours will top the Scottish National party’s transport programme if it wins power in Scotland next year (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/10/snp_promises_220mph_train_link.html#more

A Nationalist-led administration would enter into early talks with the UK government and offer to pay up to 10% of the costs of constructing the rail line across Britain.

The move is seen as an effort to seize the initiative from Labour after reports that a government-commissioned study by Sir Rod Eddington , the former British Airways chief executive , will reject a new north-south high-speed line.

Under the SNP strategy, a Nationalist-led coalition in Edinburgh would meet the cost of new track in Scotland if the UK government paid for the required new railway in England.

The Treasury estimates that the rail link could cost £33 billion to construct but Iain Coucher , deputy chief executive of Network Rail , believes a high-speed rail network could be built for about £15 billion.

Here is a link to the High Speed Line feasibility study conducted by Atkins for the Strategic Rail Authority.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_railways/documents/page/dft_railways_032564.pdf

“If you can get around 70% to 80% of people who travel from London to Edinburgh or Glasgow on the train then you are also talking about raising significant income,” Coucher added.

The SNP favours a link that would connect Scotland to Birmingham, London and Manchester. This is likely to be cheaper than a network that would include Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle because it would require fewer miles of new track.

Here is a further article on German reaction to the recent Maglev train crash (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/10/germanys_troubles_with_transra.html#more

A post-mortem report of the Emsland accident , released eight days after the accident , suggests that the local authorities were negligent in applying safety regulations. The train was speeding at 170km an hour when it collided with a maintenance vehicle on a test track , killing 23 of the 31 people on board.

A report in the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung claims that the authorities in the state of Lower Saxony had failed to notice that the maintenance vehicle did not have operating approval or a valid safety certificate.

However , this claim is being disputed by other politicians who point out that there had recently been a fire on the train in Shanghai and that the Chinese government had , in fact , sent a delegation to Emsland to find out more about the accident , suggesting that it too had serious doubts about the train's safety.

The accident has put politicians of the ruling German coalition on the defensive; the Munich rail link , expected to cost nearly 1.8 billion euros , is likely to see greater opposition than in the past.

However , Hans Eichel , a former German finance minister and presently the head of a working group called "Transrapid" set up by the government , warned that if the Transrapid rail link at Munich airport was killed , then it would be "dead as a German product" but , he added, it would appear, in a couple of years , in the world markets as a "Chinese product".
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Re: High Speed Rail Link Expected To Be Abandoned
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 10:16:57 AM »

A new high speed rail link between Glasgow , Birmingham and London is the only long-term answer to traffic congestion , according to a major transportation survey published today (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2006/10/call_for_33bn_high_speed_rail_1.html#more

The Institution of Civil Engineers' annual State of the Nation report urges the Government to start planning now for a completely new track running the length of the country.



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