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WyvusArconius
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good morning, I dont know how many (if any) of you read the "Rail" magazine. but the current issue sees the front page headline: "NETWORK RAIL AND FIRST MUST END SHAMBLES ON GREAT WESTERN."
A chunk of the article is aimed at network rails appauling infrastructure management of the Paddington - bristol mainline, and the delays associated with that COMBINED with FGW's inept management of stock/crew/fares/timetabling. There is also a choice quote that highlights FGW's failures with regards to the non main lines. "It's not all FGW's fault, of course. Yes, it needs to make sure that the farcical shenanigans over fares, overcrowding, rolling stock shortages and the appalling neglect and jaw-droppingly crass management of the west country branch lines (which previous operator National express "Wessex" had re-juvinated) are never repeated."
Wessex trains did do a lot to make the smaller lines in the region work themselves. Heck, they had the sense to run 5 trains EWPD on the transwilts, a line which we all know is screaming out with potiential. They were very community minded. Maybe FGW should take that into conisideration: If Wessex Trains could make it work, why can't they?
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sumila
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Hi all,
Yes, I read that article. How typical of FGW to blame everybody else except themselves for the mess that they themselves have largly created. Network Rail is not perfect, but at least we admit to our mistakes and work positively and very hard to rectify them. It's not going to happen overnight (or at all in FGW's case!) but things are a whole world better than they were five years ago, and continue to impove. We put our money into improving the infrastructue, not employing poets for railway stations!
Thames Trains was another TOC taken over by FGW. Thames Trains run a good efficient service. Fast forward to today. Same trains on the same lines serving the same stations. The only factor that has changed is that FGW took them over - now look at the appaling service they provide (or don't in some cases!) It seems everything they touch becomes worse.
A Mail On Sunday article several weeks ago, by a First Group employee gives a good example about how they blame anything and everybody else. The employee had carried out a survey on suicides in the area and how they extensively delayed their services and caused widespread disruption. How crass is it to blame mentally unblalanced, and now dead people? And how easy, as their targets cannot answer back! A well run and efficient service would not suffer too greatly as a result of this unfortunate type of incident. The blame gets passed regularly - almost like they have their own spin doctor in fact!
A school of thought says FGW will take over parts of Network Rail especially the signalling. Given their 'Midas touch' at taking over other areas, is this a wise thing? All the hard work that Network Rail have put in and the improvements we have made, will simply stop, and probably start to go in decline. If anything, it should be the other way round - Network Rail take over FGW. We have well trainned professional people, who like my colleagues and I, just want to run a timely efficient service - and we don't have share-holders to satisfy and pay a premium to. Profits ploughed back into the business will vastly improve it and quickly.
My colleagues and I find it incredulous that FGW still holds a franchise to run trains.
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WyvusArconius
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Hello Sumila, I couldnt agree more. I am a lowly university student, with only a slight knowledge into how the industry works. However, everyday i see the FGW delays list in their site ... I think i posted recentley about ten train cancellations b4 9am one morning.... Looking from the outside even i have to wonder how exactly they have still retained their franchise. i travel regularly between Portsmouth and Chippenham, and I see and hear all sorts about FGW's mis management skills. As someone who would like to work in the rail industry when I graduate next year, I dread to think what things will be like this time next year. but then again, this is why I want to. To help fix things.
Daniel
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CJHarrison
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Frankly, Sumila, your post is little more than gross hypocrisy, scattered liberally with inaccuracies, evasions and general factual errors.
First, First Great Western do not blame everyone else for their mistakes. Alison Forster consistently maintained that FGW made errors of judgement and she apologised for those and the inconvenience they caused. She did so via letters put out on the trains, messages on the website, publicly at meetings and on local television. Such apologies may not help passengers who have experienced poor levels of service, but it runs counter to your claim. It also stands in direct contrast to Network Rail who hide behind the scenes rather than engage directly with customers.
Second, you say you put ‘your’ money into improving infrastructure rather than ‘employing poets’. The use of the word ‘your’ is misleading. Unlike First Great Western, Network Rail is massively subsidised by the taxpayer: in other words, you do not really have any money of your own because you are not a proper commercial organisation. First Great Western, on the other hand, are not subsidised and – in addition to paying track access charges to Network Rail – they are paying over £1bn in premium payments. As such, it really isn’t any of Network Rail’s – or anyone else’s – business what a private company decides to spend its own money on. In any case, the cost of employing the poet, if indeed there was a financial cost, would be miniscule in comparison to the £200m of investment FGW is putting into the franchise.
Third, blaming suicides for delays is not crass – it is a matter of objective fact. For obvious reasons suicides and accidental fatalities do cause major delays and it just so happens that last year one out of every three fatalities on the rail network occurred on routes into and out of Paddington. Moreover, there was one week in July of this year when there were four fatalities in four days between Paddington and Slough. Stating this is not disrespectful to those who died or to their families – for whom everyone has the utmost sympathy – it’s just stating what happens to be true. You claim that a well run and efficient service would not suffer too greatly from suicides. What utter tripe. Suicides can close lines for hours, take rolling stock and staff out of service and have a terrible knock on effect to all other services on the network. They wreak havoc with even the most efficient and effective of operations.
Fourth, Network Rail’s performance is nowhere near as good as you try to paint it. For May of this year Network Rail caused a UK total of around 58,000 delay minutes: just over 29,000 of those were on the Great Western route. Let’s be clear: these are delays that are caused by the failure of your infrastructure and are nothing whatsoever to do with First Great Western. That is a terrible record and one underlined by the Office of the Rail Regulator’s statement that: “performance for First Great Western services continues to suffer from very high levels of delays attributed to Network Rail”. On a national basis you will find that in Q1 of this year (the most recent period for which full data are available) your delays were 2.1% WORSE than the previous year. That is a DETEROIRATION in performance which hardly supports your claim that things are getting better. Just to underline this whole point, perhaps you will recall when, in April of this year, Network Rail grossly underestimated the amount of engineering work required in Wales and as a result overran by a whole week meaning there were no services to or from Swansea. No, I am sorry to say that Network Rail is hardly a paragon of efficiency.
Finally, your point about profits only demonstrates your economic ignorance. I have written about this extensively elsewhere if you care to improve your understanding.
None of what I have written here is to try and claim that FGW is blame free, nor should it be interpreted as indicating that Network Rail is the cause of all problems on the network. To be very fair, often Network Rail is a victim of the same half-baked system that the government imposed on the rail industry that creates so many issues for FGW.
That said, I do think, Sumila, that people in glass houses should not throw stones and it is disingenuous to the extreme that Network Rail should stand in judgement of First Great Western’s performance when your own is anything but laudable.
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Industry Insider
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First Great Western, on the other hand, are not subsidised and – in addition to paying track access charges to Network Rail – they are paying over £1bn in premium payments. As such, it really isn’t any of Network Rail’s – or anyone else’s – business what a private company decides to spend its own money on. In any case, the cost of employing the poet, if indeed there was a financial cost, would be miniscule in comparison to the £200m of investment FGW is putting into the franchise.
Very good reply I have to say CJHarrison - I agree with many of your sentiments, though for the purpose of accuracy it should be pointed out that FGW are currently receiving a subsidy and will continue to do so for the first three years of the franchise, after which it is true to say that they will be paying premiums. This of course doesn't bode too well for the future given the fact that the service is pretty shocking in these years of subsidy. Somebody, surely, at FGW's PR department should have quashed this stupid 'poet' idea well before it hit the headlines though, as whatever it cost, surely it should have been obvious that it was not the time to reel out such an idea!
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