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Graham Ellis
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Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« on: August 07, 2006, 03:02:26 PM »

There's been some talk here as to whether or not the new services as published on 28th July conform to the "SLC2" specification for the franchise.   I was in some doubt as to what the exact peak hour definition was, so I wrote to ask:

The December timetable does comply with SLC2.  The requirement is for an arrival in Swindon between 07.30 and 08.30 and a departure between 17.30 and 19.00.

So an arrival in Swindon at 07:50 and a departure at 18:42 is within the specification.

Naughty questions:

a) I wonder if the SLC2 has been changed in any way during negotiations, or if it remains exactly the same as it was when produced as a tender document well over a year ago.

b) If SLC2 allows the operator to provide a service for commuters that has them in Swindon for up to 11.5 hours every day, how does that tie in with European directives on limiting work hours?  It appears to be providing a service that geared to a working week of some 50 hours ....
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Re: Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2006, 04:36:50 PM »

There's been some talk here as to whether or not the new services as published on 28th July conform to the "SLC2" specification for the franchise.   I was in some doubt as to what the exact peak hour definition was, so I wrote to ask:

The December timetable does comply with SLC2.  The requirement is for an arrival in Swindon between 07.30 and 08.30 and a departure between 17.30 and 19.00.

This may not be news to some avid followers of the saga (especially those who work on the inside), but here are some interesting facts I have come across recently - either new from the DfT'd FOI information, or confirmed by it.

5. That the SLC2 document current at 31st August 2006 requires First to provide a train from Westbury on Monday to Friday that arrives into Swindon between 08:00 and 08:30. Such a service is NOT shown on the current draft timetable.

One of the above quotes cannot be correct.

Who do you think is mistaken , Graham , the DfT or your source Huh
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Re: Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2006, 07:02:53 AM »

Well - I was given a copy of the SLC2 dates 31st August 2006 which stated 08:00 to 08:30. But I understand that the SLC2 can be changed by mutual agreement between the DfT and the operator, so it may have been changed in the past and may again be changed in the future.
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Re: Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2006, 12:47:04 PM »

I must say that this leaves me rather confused , Graham Huh

August 7 2006 :

"The requirement is for an arrival in Swindon between 07.30 and 08.30 and a departure between 17.30 and 19.00."

This was after the "final" December 2006 Timetable was announced by First (but since taken off their website.) This means that the pre - 0800 Swindon arrival time did indeed comply with SLC2 at that date.

"I was given a copy of the SLC2 dates 31st August 2006 which stated 08:00 to 08:30."

The pre - 0800 Swindon arrival time has not been changed , yet SLC2 must have been changed between August 7 2006 & August 31 2006. Why make a change to SLC2 that makes a previously valid timetable INVALID?

It just doesnt make any sense Huh Huh
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Re: Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2006, 05:09:54 AM »

I suspect that it never was 07:30 to 08:30 and that I was told that information either in error or as a delibrate lie. But I have no proof that either of those is the case, and an outside option remains that for some bizarre reason it was changed.  That [i]is[/s] an outside option, but then SLC2 has some bizarre things in it / leads to some bizarre results such as the one-way service on Sundays!
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Re: Conforms to SLC2. But ...
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2006, 03:20:17 PM »

I may be able to shed some light on this , Graham.

I obtained my copy of SLC2 (which was confirmed valid and up to date by the DfT Public Registry) on the 15th August 2006. It is identical to the one that you received , which was dated 31st August 2006.

If your source is correct then SLC2 must have been changed between August 7 2006 & August 15 2006.

At least that narrows it down a bit Smiley
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