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The freight angle...
« on: October 06, 2005, 09:42:07 PM »

Hi Graham, nice forum and much needed. I live in Melksham and catch the train three or four times a month, going on business to either central London or (if I'm really lucky Grin) to Basingstoke. I try and go from Melksham whenever I can; either via Chippenham and on to Reading and London (or Basingstoke) that way, or to Westbury and on to London Paddington via Pewsey and Reading, or even sometimes to London Waterloo via Salisbury if I'm not in too much of a hurry. I used to be able to get to Basingstoke via Westbury and Salisbury as well, but that service doesn't seem to run at a reasonable hour during the working day any more.

If I'm in a hurry I'll drive to Chippenham station (or sometimes Westbury, since the parking's cheaper there), but I like to try and support and use Melksham station primarily since I believe in it, but also since I think we're damn lucky to have it still - just think, we could easily be living in Devizes or Calne (or Marlborough for that matter) with no hope of ever seeing a railway line there again, or in Corsham where they have a railway but little or no chance of ever seeing a station again. I've lived in two places that have lost their railway stations (and lines) in my lifetime, Wells for many years and after that Winscombe in Somerset; and in both cases it was like watching the heart and soul being ripped out of the place simultaneously. I'd hate to see that happen to Melksham.

Which brings me on to why we do happen to still have a railway... only I suspect because it's an important freight route. It's the Mendip Quarries that keep our line open. Without them, I'm sure the line would have been completely ripped up years ago. Us passengers are just an inconvenience; our slow little stopping trains an expensive annoyance to the authorities, they get in the way of the expresses on the main line and of the revenue-making stone trains.

Has anyone approached the stone companies to ask what their medium term plans are for traffic on the Melksham route? Are they looking to increase it, reduce it, cease it altogether (heaven forbid!)? If we could get them on our (ie the passengers') side we'd have a much more powerful voice.

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 08:33:31 AM »

You're making a whole load of really excellent points, Phil.  I'm certainly aware that the line has only survived because of the stone trains - I'm not sure if that's now a "historic" point or whether it continues to be the case.  I DO know that stone trains generate an enormous income for the railways, and an extra stone train brings in more revenue that an extra intercity 125 full of passengers.  Have you / has anyone got any contacts at the Stone Companies ... it's not something I have personally and I've not had a chance to investigate this one.

Just wanted to say a quick welcome.  I'll be coming back to this thread later in the day and splitting out / commenting on other parts innew threads if I may
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 07:56:03 PM »

Thanks, Graham. Sorry to say I have no connection at all with the stone companies, and sadly no time to chase them up - but I'm sure it won't be too hard to find a willing volunteer to at least write to them.

Thinking back to when the line in Melksham was reopened to passenger traffic (which I have a short film of on video, by the way! It was screened on ITV I think as part of a programme about Dr. Beeching, the "evil mastermind" behind the closure of much of Britain's railways system - Melksham was for a while the first post-Beeching station in the country to be reopened) - thinking back to that time, local gossip had it that the real reason the line and station was reopened was that the rail company had opened some new offices in Swindon and were relocating people from elsewhere (Bristol maybe, or possibly London), and because there was a lot of house-building going on in Melksham at the time, they offered the workers a relocation package which included a cheap new home in Melksham and free rail travel to and from Swindon. So, it suited them to reopen the station, but obviously not to actually inject any money into the project - hence the crappy little shelter we ended up with. Ooh and some bike racks. Woo-hoo.

This is pure conjecture and gossip, mind, and I can't even recall who the company in question was at the time; but it's almost definitely another piece of the jigsaw puzzle.

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 11:27:08 AM »

Here is some further information on this :

Stone trains pass through Melksham station roughly twice a day at present. One of the routes that they take is Shepton Mallet (Merehead) to Wooton Bassett.

As you can see from Page 8 , Figure 11 of the link below , the Merehead line is projected to achieve high - level tonnage growth to 2015.
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/documents/3110_Route%2012%20Reading%20to%20Penzance.pdf

Also , a Track Access Grant for the EWS Shepton Mallet (Merehead) to Wooton Bassett route has been approved (7 December 2005.) The grant also covers the EWS Shepton Mallet (Merehead) to Eastleigh route (link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_freight/documents/page/dft_freight_610669.hcsp

Here is a link to more information on Track Access Grants.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_freight/documents/page/dft_freight_039487.hcsp

A group of Parliamentary Written Questions related to the Mendip Quarries was recently asked (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060711/text/60711w1564.htm#column_1703W

Mr. Steen: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport (1) if he will take steps to ensure that freight traffic from the Mendip quarries is re-routed via Bristol to enable essential repair work by high-output machinery on the Reading to Taunton line; and if he will make a statement; [83528]

(2) what discussions he has had with the owners of (a) Whatley and (b) Merehead Quarry on their use of freight trains at times when repairs could be effectively carried out to the Reading to Taunton line by high-output machinery; [83529]

(3) if he will ensure that the high-output machinery for repairing and improving rail track is used on the West country route between Reading and Exeter and not transported to other parts of the rail network until the work is completed. [83532]

Derek Twigg [holding answer 10 July 2006]: These are operational matters for Network Rail, the owner and operator of the national rail network. The hon. Member should contact Network Rail’s chief executive at the following address for a response to his questions.

John Armitt

Chief Executive

Network Rail

40 Melton street

London NW1 2EE
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 04:34:45 PM »

Here are some other examples of approved Railfreight grants.
Felixstowe to Ditton (Freightliner)
Southampton to Widnes (EWS)
Southampton to Liverpool (Freightliner)
Tilbury to Liverpool (Freightliner)
Felixstowe to Liverpool (Freightliner)

These are all Company Neutral Revenue Support grants (details contained in the link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_freight/documents/page/dft_freight_039488.pdf

In addition , Track Access Grants have been approved for the following routes.

Tilbury to Knowsley (EWS)
Immingham to Knowsley (EWS)

These routes all either terminate , or pass through or near to the area shown in the map below.
http://www.derektwigg.org.uk/uploads/ukmap.jpg

Here is another link on this area.
http://www.derektwigg.org.uk/sect3/

Here is an article on Ditton freight village.
http://www.thisisworld.co.uk/cheshire/runcorn__widnes/changing_face/RUNCORN__WIDNES_CHANGING_FACE1.html

Quotes from the above link :

"This giant rail park has been earmarked by the Government to become a site of regional significance."

"The ambitious masterplan has been given the green light with £28m investment over the next 15 years."

"It will create jobs and trigger a major programme of land reclamation. The site is next to the west coast line, which supports the Government's aim to get freight off the road and onto the railways.

"Haulage businessman Steve O'Connor of The O'Connor Group has invested in giant new cranes and teamed up with Maersk, the biggest logistics company in the world, to develop an intermodal depot."

"His vehicles emblazoned with the Mersey Gateway logo, supporting the second Mersey crossing, transport goods throughout the continent."

Here are some links on the Mersey Gateway Project.
http://www.merseygateway.co.uk/html/concerns.htm
http://www.merseygateway.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.derektwigg.org.uk/news/newsitem49.htm

Here are links to the relevant sections of the Network Rail Business Plan 2006.
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/documents/3118_Route%2020%20North%20West%20Urban.pdf
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/documents/3119_Route%2021%20Merseyrail.pdf
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/documents/3116_Route%2018%20WCML.pdf
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/documents/3120_Route%2022%20North%20Wales%20and%20Borders.pdf

Some quotes from the above links :

"Demand for freight paths is expected to increase
on the core routes, in particular with regards to
domestic automotive and intermodal traffic.

Currently, terminal capacity is limited, but there are
proposals for 4 separate new intermodal terminals
in the Liverpool – Manchester belt, on Routes 18
and 20. It is estimated that the development of one
or more new intermodal terminals in the northwest
may result in an increase in traffic equivalent to 32
additional daily services by 10 years’ time. In
addition to these 4 potential terminals, there is
interest in opening up an intermodal terminal near
Northwich on the mid-Cheshire line.

The market for coal traffic on rail is expected to
grow in excess of GDP, as power stations start to
use more imported coal. The main port facility on
this route capable of handling coal is the Liverpool
Bulk Terminal at Alexandra Dock, and this is
conveniently located for power stations at Fiddlers
Ferry, Ironbridge and Ratcliffe."

"The high demand for coal for electricity generation
is likely to mean that the number of trains per day
from Ellesmere Port to Fiddlers Ferry will increase
from two to three. This flow may also act as a
catalyst for new freight flows from Ellesmere Port to
begin. We are working with Mersey Docks and
Harbour Company and English, Welsh and
Scottish Railway on a scheme to bring back into
use the line from Birkenhead docks towards
Bidston. This could introduce new freight flows,
notably including steel. However, the number and
timings of these trains will be dictated by the
operation of existing passenger services,
especially given the close proximity to the train
maintenance depot at Birkenhead North."

"Whilst NDS’s stone traffic from Penmaenmawr to
Crewe is expected to remain steady, the other
freight flows are likely to grow, and new flows may
appear. Ellesmere Port has reopened to rail freight
traffic. Not only is the existing flow of 2 coal trains a
day expected to grow to 3, but there is a possibility
that the reopening of the port will stimulate further
traffic. On the Ellesmere Port to Helsby line, the
connection to Kemira Fertilisers is expected to see
a return of freight traffic in 2006, initially associated
with Kemira, but with the possibility of further flows,
such as for glass traffic.

There is also a possibility that Birkenhead Docks
will reopen to rail freight traffic. Although unlikely to
involve a large number of daily train paths, it would
add more traffic to a busy freight line, and the
ultimate destination of the traffic may add to the
case for increasing capacity on the single line
between Wrexham and Chester (on Route 14).
There is still a desire to transport slate waste from
Blaenau Ffestiniog by rail. We continue to work with
the WAG and McAlpine to determine the scope of
work this would require."

"The rail freight industry has recently provided to
Network Rail a set of 10 year traffic forecasts as
part of the Freight RUS, and we are presently
assessing their implications. The key route sections
within this route that has been identified as a fragile
route and has clearly defined additional tonnage/
train numbers projected by the industry are: Crewe
Independent lines and Ditton – Garston slow lines."

Other key route sections identified are :

Wrexham – Bidston.
Mickle Trafford – Plumley.

Here is a link on the Olive Mount Chord track near Mersey Docks.
http://iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200businessfarmingnews/tm_objectid=17304908&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=fresh-hopes-for-rail-link-name_page.html

Quote from the above link :

"Secretary of State for Transport, Douglas Alexander yesterday revealed that the Olive Mount Chord was one of several projects to be included in the government's productivity transport innovation fund."

A Parliamentary Written Question was recently asked on the transport innovation fund (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60703w01.htm

Chris Grayling (Epsom & Ewell):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what the total estimated cost is of the schemes outlined by his Department as potentially eligible for the first round of Transport Innovation Fund funding; and what total funding is available for projects which receive this funding.

Here is a link on the new Liverpool South Parkway station which replaces Allerton and Garston stations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/articles/2006/06/08/travel_lsp_opening_feature.shtml

Garston is also a key railfreight destination. Here is a link that mentions its services.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=286.msg773#msg773
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 05:57:17 AM »

I've lived in two places that have lost their railway stations (and lines) in my lifetime, Wells for many years and after that Winscombe in Somerset; and in both cases it was like watching the heart and soul being ripped out of the place simultaneously. I'd hate to see that happen to Melksham.

Which brings me on to why we do happen to still have a railway... only I suspect because it's an important freight route. It's the Mendip Quarries that keep our line open. Without them, I'm sure the line would have been completely ripped up years ago. Us passengers are just an inconvenience; our slow little stopping trains an expensive annoyance to the authorities, they get in the way of the expresses on the main line and of the revenue-making stone trains.

Has anyone approached the stone companies to ask what their medium term plans are for traffic on the Melksham route? Are they looking to increase it, reduce it, cease it altogether (heaven forbid!)? If we could get them on our (ie the passengers') side we'd have a much more powerful voice.

An update on a very old post, Phil.

The more I see and learn, the more important the freight angle looks.  Indeed, I agree that the line only survived through the bad times because of the stone traffic, and we should be grateful to that. However, freight traffic is growing and the government encourages it to grow further.  When the passenger service re-opened in 1985, freight was minimal too and the two could be bedfellows on the single track.  But both lots of traffic have grown to the extent that there's a potential capacity issue coming up in the (near) future. This is exacerbated by the growing use of the line for diversions of express passenger services ....

Picture - Freightliner on the single track between Chippenham and Trowbridge, 6th May 2006. This is a Garston (near Liverpool) to Southampton service.

Traffic between the South Coast and the Midlands and North has to pass through "Wessex" or nearby.  The choice of lines takes it to the East, past the Reading bottleneck, to the West, where it has to shoe-horn around Bristol, or through Melksham. That's the logistics of why we see steadily more freight already.  And that's why there was a looming problem with rapid passeneger grown and rapid freight growth and limited capacity.

Four possible solutions. (a) Route some traffic away from the line.  (b) Kill off or stifle the freight  (c) Kill off or stifle the passengers (d) Inverst in putting the second track back.  The new FGW franchise was a golden opportunity to take option (c) before the line grew to the extent that it would cause a public outcry.  It was a nice option for Alastair Darling, aspiring to be Chancellor under Gordon Brown, giving him the chance of showing his ability cut expenditure.

Because our traffic has grown so dramatically, and because there's such a desparate need for the line for more freight, the current battle is epecially difficult.  Everyone realises that this apparent backwater has huge strategic importance.  Kill the passenger trains and you've got the freight route from Southampton to Garston (isn't minister Derek Twigg's constituency very close to that?).   But leave passengers alone for even another year and the service will be too strong to cull without a major fight.  Perhaps that's what's behind the decision, and the desire of (seemingly) most industry parties to minimse our campaign.
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Here is a link on the Olive Mount Chord track near Mersey Docks.
http://iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200businessfarmingnews/tm_objectid=17304908&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=fresh-hopes-for-rail-link-name_page.html

Quote from the above link :

"Secretary of State for Transport, Douglas Alexander yesterday revealed that the Olive Mount Chord was one of several projects to be included in the government's productivity transport innovation fund."

A Parliamentary Written Question was recently asked on the transport innovation fund (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60703w01.htm

Chris Grayling (Epsom & Ewell):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what the total estimated cost is of the schemes outlined by his Department as potentially eligible for the first round of Transport Innovation Fund funding; and what total funding is available for projects which receive this funding.

Here is a link to another Parliamentary Written question on this.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060719/text/60719w1817.htm#column_436W

Mr. Geoffrey Robinson: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what role the Transport Innovation Fund will play in generating sustainable increases in national productivity.

Dr. Ladyman: Through its productivity strand the Transport Innovation Fund will support national, inter-regional, regional, inter-urban (and exceptionally local) transport schemes which are expected to make a substantial and sustainable contribution to national productivity.
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"Whilst NDS’s stone traffic from Penmaenmawr to
Crewe is expected to remain steady, the other
freight flows are likely to grow, and new flows may
appear. Ellesmere Port has reopened to rail freight
traffic. Not only is the existing flow of 2 coal trains a
day expected to grow to 3, but there is a possibility
that the reopening of the port will stimulate further
traffic. On the Ellesmere Port to Helsby line, the
connection to Kemira Fertilisers is expected to see
a return of freight traffic in 2006, initially associated
with Kemira, but with the possibility of further flows,
such as for glass traffic.

There is also a possibility that Birkenhead Docks
will reopen to rail freight traffic. Although unlikely to
involve a large number of daily train paths, it would
add more traffic to a busy freight line, and the
ultimate destination of the traffic may add to the
case for increasing capacity on the single line
between Wrexham and Chester (on Route 14).
There is still a desire to transport slate waste from
Blaenau Ffestiniog by rail. We continue to work with
the WAG and McAlpine to determine the scope of
work this would require."

"The rail freight industry has recently provided to
Network Rail a set of 10 year traffic forecasts as
part of the Freight RUS, and we are presently
assessing their implications. The key route sections
within this route that has been identified as a fragile
route and has clearly defined additional tonnage/
train numbers projected by the industry are: Crewe
Independent lines and Ditton – Garston slow lines."

Other key route sections identified are :

Wrexham – Bidston.

Here are a couple of links on the Office of Rail Regulation - approved Oswestry line re-opening.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/5172542.stm
http://www.cambrian-railways-soc.co.uk/press/pressarc03.html

A Track Access Grant has also been approved for the EWS Carlisle - Chirk (near Oswestry) route.

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Kill the passenger trains and you've got the freight route from Southampton to Garston (isn't minister Derek Twigg's constituency very close to that?).
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Also likely to end up very close to Derek Twigg's constituency is the Eurorail Freight Route. Here is a relevant link.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=330.msg942#msg942
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Here is a link on the Olive Mount Chord track near Mersey Docks.
http://iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200businessfarmingnews/tm_objectid=17304908&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=fresh-hopes-for-rail-link-name_page.html

Quote from the above link :

"Secretary of State for Transport, Douglas Alexander yesterday revealed that the Olive Mount Chord was one of several projects to be included in the government's productivity transport innovation fund."

A Parliamentary Written Question was recently asked on the transport innovation fund (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60703w01.htm

Chris Grayling (Epsom & Ewell):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what the total estimated cost is of the schemes outlined by his Department as potentially eligible for the first round of Transport Innovation Fund funding; and what total funding is available for projects which receive this funding.

Here is a link to another Parliamentary Written question on this.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060719/text/60719w1817.htm#column_436W

Mr. Geoffrey Robinson: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what role the Transport Innovation Fund will play in generating sustainable increases in national productivity.

Dr. Ladyman: Through its productivity strand the Transport Innovation Fund will support national, inter-regional, regional, inter-urban (and exceptionally local) transport schemes which are expected to make a substantial and sustainable contribution to national productivity.

Here is the answer to Chris Grayling's question (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060720/text/60720w1861.htm#column_689W

Chris Grayling: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what the total estimated cost is of the schemes outlined by his Department as potentially eligible for the first round of Transport Innovation Fund funding; and what total funding is available for projects which receive this funding.

Gillian Merron: The total funding available within the Transport Innovation Fund (TIF) is £9,450 million, of which £290 million is available in 2008-09 and £600 million in 2009-10, the first two years of the TIF. Of this, up to £200 million a year will be available for packages involving demand management aimed to tackle congestion.

The total cost of the schemes which will be taken forward for further consideration and appraisal under Productivity TIF, as listed in my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State’s announcement on 27 June, is currently estimated to be around £1.4 billion. The option of a TIF contribution is also under consideration for Crossrail. I refer the hon. Member to the Parliamentary Estimate of Expense submitted with the Crossrail Bill for the estimated cost of that scheme.

My right hon. Friend’s announcement made it clear that we expect to allocate TIP funds to only a limited number of the schemes listed, and that the availability of other funding contributions would be a consideration in deciding on those allocations.
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Several Parliamentary Written Questions on issues related to this today (link below.)
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60724w01.htm

Anne Main (St Albans):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what environmental factors are taken into account when deciding where to grant permission for a rail freight interchange.

Anne Main (St Albans):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, if he will visit the proposed site for a rail freight interchange in Park Street, St Albans.
 
Anne Main (St Albans):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what criteria his Department took into account when deciding there was a need for four rail freight interchanges.

Anne Main (St Albans):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what recent studies have been undertaken on the capacity of the rail systems around London to accommodate freight; and if he will make a statement.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2006, 03:49:45 PM »

One of the advantages of building a railfreight interchange at Park Street , St Albans is highlighted by the map at the top of the link below.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4883060.stm

The line that you can just make out on the left edge of the green-shaded area is the St Albans Abbey Line. Using this line would give the interchange access to the West Coast Main Line , as well as the access already planned to the Midland Main Line at Radlett.

However , if they did that , then there would be no room for passenger trains on the St Albans Abbey Line. Here is a map of the route.
http://www.abfly.org.uk/Route.htm

Here is a link to the West Midlands Franchise Consultation Document.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_railways/documents/page/dft_railways_611835.pdf

Page 25 of the link above :

"Bidders will be asked to commit to meeting a base specification for the franchise. Amongst other things this includes a specification of train services as a Service Level Commitment (SLC). There will be two service level commitments: SLC1, which will operate from November 2007 to December 2008; and SLC2 which will operate from December 2008 until the end of the franchise. This approach reflects the major timetable changes which will be implemented in December 2008 following completion of the West Coast Main Line Route Modernisation."

"SLC1 and SLC2 form a minimum base specification and bidders will be able to propose additional services by means of Alternative Tenders. Whilst SLC2 sets out the minimum train service level from December 2008, the bidders will be expected to respond to changes in demand and to respond to any opportunities that arise from any changes to the railway infrastructure throughout the life of the franchise."

Page 29.

The service improvement that would safeguard the future of the St Albans Abbey Line is a priced option & not part of the base case specification.

Here is a link to the Eastern Regional Planning Assessment which covers the St Albans Abbey line.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_railways/documents/downloadable/dft_railways_611208.pdf

Page 92 of the above link.

"The Watford Junction to St Albans branch is a single line allowing a maximum frequency of one train every 45 minutes, it has low levels of utilisation."

Here are a couple of links on the St Albans Abbey Line.
http://www.abfly.org.uk/News.htm
http://www.abfly.org.uk/News_archive.htm

The above links detail quite a lot of disruption.

Here are some relevant links.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/139_Our_battle.html
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/140_is_part_of_a_planned_war.html
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/138_Lies_damned_lies_and_statistics.html
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The St Albans Abbey line is a Community Rail Line. Here is a relevant link.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=324.msg911#msg911
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2006, 10:49:11 AM »

I note they're selling off the former goods yard at Severn Beach, just like they're selling off the land at Melksham station that's earmarked for the new station.   

Is there any issue at Severn Beach with selling off this land and predjudicing future rail development there?   Or is it a good thing with more houses near the station leading to an increase in passenger traffic on the existing trains / buses?
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2006, 12:34:26 PM »

I note they're selling off the former goods yard at Severn Beach, just like they're selling off the land at Melksham station that's earmarked for the new station.

Is there any issue at Severn Beach with selling off this land and predjudicing future rail development there? Or is it a good thing with more houses near the station leading to an increase in passenger traffic on the existing trains / buses?

Thats a very difficult call to make , Graham. However , I do think that the link below may be of general interest.
http://www.brb.gov.uk/property/property_listings?keyword=Pilning
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