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Rail White Paper
« on: July 23, 2007, 03:15:35 PM »

I understand that the Rail White Paper is to be published tomorrow.    That's the one that some of the Sunday papers were talking about - let's see what Ruth Kelly comes up with.  If you're up early enough, try Radio 5 live at just after 06:30 and you just may hear "yours truely" saying what he thinks the passengers around here woul dlike to see come out of it.   Which basically amounts to an appropriate train service.   (Frequency, Capacity, service times, reliability and cost to make full and resaonable consideration of the passenger, and potential passenger,'s needs)
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 03:20:38 PM »

see - http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/07/railways_overpriced_fares_are.html

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The railway white paper will set targets for punctuality and capacity for Network Rail and announce how much money the company will get to do this. Network Rail has asked for £21bn for day-to-day running and another £7-8bn for improvements, including upgrading the London Thameslink route, a major refit of Birmingham New Street station, and new train carriages and longer platforms on crowded commuter routes.

It will also set out a 30-year plan with more ambitious ideas, including a new signalling system so trains can be timetabled closer together, new train fleets, some of which could be powered by biofuels, and tram-trains.

However a draft of part of the white paper, seen by The Observer, suggested other ways to relieve crowding could include removing seats and increasing fares in the 'shoulders' just before and after peak times, to encourage some commuters to travel earlier or later.

The plan could also disappoint campaigners hoping for a firm commitment to major schemes, including new north-south passenger and freight routes, and funding for an east-west Crossrail project under London. There is also cynicism about how much will change, after numerous Labour promises of similar improvements in the past.
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 04:57:05 PM »

The White Paper , entitled Delivering a Sustainable Railway , has been unveiled (links below.)
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302259&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.dft.gov.uk/about/strategy/whitepapers/whitepapercm7176/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6912930.stm

Costed plans for the near future include approval for the £5.5 billion Thameslink project , major redevelopments at Birmingham New Street and Reading stations to eliminate the system's biggest bottlenecks , and £200 million to start work on a strategic freight network. There will be 1,300 new carriages to ease overcrowding.

The White Paper includes the High Level Output Specification (HLOS) , the Government's proposed spending plans for rail in England and Wales from 2009-2014 , and the Statement of Funds Available (SoFA). While government money for the railways will amount to £15.3bn between 2009 and 2014 , passenger fares are expected to make up £39.2bn in the same period.

Here are some more links on this.
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/07/britain_plans_10_billion_sterl.html#more

http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/07/rail_investment_a_step_forward.html#more

http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/07/fare_games.html#more

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6912705.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/6914491.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6914375.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6914757.stm

http://thisisplymouth.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=133464&command=displayContent&sourceNode=133158&contentPK=17918444&folderPk=78031&pNodeId=133174

http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=143632&command=displayContent&sourceNode=142719&contentPK=17916835&folderPk=91672&pNodeId=201778

http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=141507&command=displayContent&sourceNode=143632&contentPK=17916839

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=new-trains-8211-in-six-years-8217-time%26method=full%26objectid=19514431%26siteid=50082-name_page.html

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=more-trains-longer-trains-better-trains%26method=full%26objectid=19516731%26siteid=50082-name_page.html

http://www.transport2000.org.uk/news/maintainNewsArticles.asp?NewsArticleID=399

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302315&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302320&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302324&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302326&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302330&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302334&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302342&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302348&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=302338&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

Quote from the final link :

"Major improvements include 1,300 new carriages for the busiest trains across England and Wales. This will include extra carriages on services in the Bristol area."
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 10:04:24 AM »

It should not be forgotten that the government plans to reduce its subsidy from £4.5bn a year to £3bn by the middle of the next decade (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/07/uk_passengers_to_bear_brunt_of.html#more
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 11:43:08 AM »

Cardiff Central MP Jenny Willott has said commuters should not pay for an overhaul of South Wales train services (link below.)
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_headline=rail-passengers-must-not-pay-for-upgrade%26method=full%26objectid=19526524%26siteid=50082-name_page.html

Here is the view from Reading and Bristol (links below.)
http://icberkshire.icnetwork.co.uk/chronicle/headlines/tm_headline=extra-platforms-and-a-better-rail-service-is-on-the-way%26method=full%26objectid=19523242%26siteid=50102-name_page.html

http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=146238&command=displayContent&sourceNode=146064&contentPK=17947642&folderPk=100268&pNodeId=145795

There are a lot of interesting quotes in the link below.
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232315&home=yes&more_nodeId1=163047&contentPK=17937123
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 11:15:10 AM »

Former Shadow Transport Secretary Chris Grayling gives his view in the link below.
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=146238&command=displayContent&sourceNode=146064&contentPK=18115337&folderPk=100268&pNodeId=145795

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"Over the past 10 years, the South West has had promise after promise of improvements to its transport systems - such as getting on with the Stonehenge tunnel and improving services on the Severn Beach railway line.

Most of the bigger promises haven't happened because Gordon Brown's Treasury blocked them.

So will things change now he's Prime Minister? His first action on transport was to publish a White Paper on what our rail system should look like for the next 30 years. A revolution for rail commuters in Bristol?

Well no, not exactly. The word Bristol appears only once in 155 pages of text, and then, believe it or not, only buried in the small print. No change there, then."
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 10:12:08 AM »

Christian Wolmar puts the White Paper in historical context (link below.)
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/tt/sept,07.shtml
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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 02:04:49 PM »

The Government's rail White Paper is "not about helping the railways at all", a former British Rail safety chief has told MPs (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/02/rail_white_paper_keeps_status.html#more

Instead, the White Paper was "about keeping the status quo and moving forward on things that don't cost a lot," said Peter Rayner.

Now a consultant and expert on rail operations and safety, Mr Rayner told the House of Commons Transport Committee that the Government had been wrong not to seriously look at electrification projects in the White Paper.

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Re: Rail White Paper
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 09:03:27 AM »

The new fare structure which features in the White Paper is explored further in the link below.
http://www.iworkforfgw.com/information/index.php?page=newfarestructure
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