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Topic: Baffling Train Information (Read 2105 times)
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Steve Bray
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13:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:32
This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Shipton. This is due to an unusually large passenger flow.
The above reason appears today, Saturday 31 March. Now, I'm 80 or so miles away from the Cotswold Line, but I suspect the real reason that the train will not call at Shipton is that a 3 car turbo is operating the service instead of an Adelante. The platform at Shipton is short, and may not be able to take a 3-car unit, although it can take a 5-car Adelante, because of the different door-opening system.
I was on this service 2 weeks ago, and a Turbo was substituting for the Adelante, and also didn't stop (the on-board announcement wasn't made until after we'd departed from Kingham, the previous stop). Obviously, I would be happy if the service is being so well used that it cannot call there, but somehow, I doubt it!
And I also see that the following Worcester to Paddington service has been cancelled.
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Graham Ellis
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If your suggestion / guess is correct, I would be surprised. My understanding is that Shipton station has never been closed since - what - Victorian times and so enjoys "Grandfather rights" - in other words, because of a historic precedent trains longer that the platofrm are allowed to stop there, even if the doors that are off the end of the platform cannot be disabled. Contrast that to Melksham, where complete closure from 1966 to 1985 extinguished these rights - I have been told that 125 running to the West of England that displace our local service with monotonous frequency if there are problemns on other lines cannot stop because the rights are no longer there.
Surprised ... but I can't think of a better reason. There isn't some big series of events at Shipton that would generate fa-cup-final size crowds in the middle of a Saturday afternoon is there?
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Steve Bray
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I think that the stop at Shipton on this particular service is an "on request stop".
On the point of grandfather rights, I don't think you are quite correct.
HST's are allowed to stop at Honeybourne station on the Cotswold Line, although this station was closed for many years. When it re-opened (in the mid 80's I recall), HST's started to call there. On the other hand, Hanborough station never had HST's call there, and because of this,today any HST service is not able to stop there. At a rough guess, the platform lengths of both Honeybourne and Hanborough are fairly similar.
Another "live Update" which I noticed several months ago, was the 1822 Paddington to Hereford one Friday evening, having to terminate at Colwall "due to a fault". That update was posted about 2 hours prior to its planned stop at Colwall, which for those who don't know, is a tiny station (even smaller than Hanborough and Honeybourne), on a stretch of single track between Great Malvern and Ledbury.
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Graham Ellis
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On the point of grandfather rights, I don't think you are quite correct.
Yes, I've probably not understood the detail; it was explained to me by an FGW Manager that the 125s couldn't stop at Melksham because it had been closed for 20 years and the right to stop long trains had been lost ... I probably jumped to one conclusion too many. Another "live Update" which I noticed several months ago, was the 1822 Paddington to Hereford one Friday evening, having to terminate at Colwall "due to a fault". That update was posted about 2 hours prior to its planned stop at Colwall, which for those who don't know, is a tiny station (even smaller than Hanborough and Honeybourne), on a stretch of single track between Great Malvern and Ledbury.
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