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Topic: What's your message to Alison Forster? (Read 3189 times)
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tonya
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More Train Less Strain are meeting Alison Forster and Tom Stables this Tuesday in Bristol. We'd like to make it very clear to her indeed that there is still lots needs fixing in the FGW area, and that in the opinion of most daily users it is still a failing company. If you have questions that you would like us to ask her, please post your questions here or on MTLS site http://forum.moretrainlessstrain.co.uk/index.php?board=6.0We would like to be able to show that it 's more than a small group of fare strikers who are complaining about her service!
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Steve Bray
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Just a few thoughts...
I'm not as familiar with the services in the Bristol/Bath area, so I cannot comment. However there are many organisations all over the FGW area that have grievances; - Oxford commuters have the OxRail Action Group, and are fed up with the morning services; The Cotswold Line Promotion Group have a particular grievance over the 0534 from Great Malvern to Paddington now being operated by a Turbo when it started off in December being operated by an Adelante (In spite of the DfT's instruction that with slight exception, all services on the Cotswold Line be formed of 125mph stock); it just goes on, and these organisatons will now doubt have their say with Alison in due course.
A particular grievance aired by the CLPG in their last newsletter, was that FGW was ignoring consultation, so maybe you could ask the question "Will FGW listen more to all the pressure groups that have sprung up, who are, after all, attempting to work WITH FGW to improve their service?".
As FGW have completely lost the respect of the vast majority of the travelling public in the West of England, what action are they going to do earn the respect of their customers?
Does FGW have any respect for its customers, as the service that was provided from December would appear that they have no interest in them, and a lot of contempt for them?
Why have they trimmed their capacity so much so that the 0710 from Bristol Temple Meads to Paddington appears to get cancelled more often than it runs? (If it is a "spare" set as has been written elsewhere, why is it in the timetable anyway?)
Why were they so totally ill-prepared for the December timetable when they had been operating many services in the area for a long time before?
In hindsight, what would FGW have done to improve the December timetable? How aware was AF of the cutbacks being implemented in the December timetable; did she have much say in the new timetables?
When are they going to do the honourable thing, hold their hands up, admit they've failed, and hand back their franchise, (before it is withdrawn from them?)
It seems that the only hope that FGW is clinging on to for the future is the introduction of the new HST interiors, although they have received a mixed reaction from the rail media, who criticise the new lay-outs for not being "family friendly" as there are very few tables.
Anyway, good luck with your meeting
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Graham Ellis
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Here's a message that I posted up in response to Tony's request:
Hi, Tony ...
Prior to December 2006, a service of 5 trains per day each way was provided linking Swindon to Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge and Salisbury (they are the five largest towns in Wiltshire) and also serving Westbury, Warminster and Frome.
Now there are just 2 trains a day each way, arriving at Swindon before 8 a.m. and after 8 p.m., and returning at twenty past 6 in the morning and at quarter to seven at night. This EXTENDS the working day for the few commuters hardy enough to still use the train from West Wiltshire by 90 minutes, and eliminates the other 10 (out of 11) major traffic flows that we have identified for this route. Most people are now on the road, and I have examples of people who are travelling less, and there's at least one who has given up their job.
Please ask Alison Forster:
a) To retime the existing 2 trains to arrive in Swindon around 08:30 and leave again around 08:45, the arrive again at 17:30 and leave again around 17:45. This IS allowed within the current SLC2 (service specification) set by the DfT - indeed, I was talking with a senior civil servant there last week and he's disappointed at the timing that First are providing on the line, with trains NOT running at peak times contrary to what the department intended.
b) To work with the DfT to re-introduce an appropriate service from December, based on a two hourly service from Swindon to Westbury / Frome or a three hourly with some extensions to Salisbury.
I accept that when First took on the franchise, they were not aware of local conditions on the "Wessex" routes, so mistakes can be forgiven. And I would like to remind Alison that if she can get more bums on seats (which is surely what she would do with the timings I suggest and that's what Jacobs recommended too in pre-specification work), she will also be working in the interests of the First Group and its shareholders.
Good luck with your meeting.
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Gwr2006
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There are a number of points made by Mr Bray that require clarification.
Oxford services are generally the same as they have been for the past two years, except that some timings have changed (people don't seem to like any change, but things cannot remain the same forever!). From my own observations, there is plenty of capacity available if people are prepared to use all the trains provided in the timetable. A 5-coach Adelante has a similar seating capacity to a 3-car Turbo and several of the latter leave Oxford almost empty whilst people try and cram into the Adelantes! People need to accept that for a 10 minute extra jouney time they can have a seat for the duration of their journey. The biggest gripe now is the quality of the information when things go wrong as the CIS doesn't work very well.
Despite what the CLPG might have people believe, there is NO requirement on FGW to operate Cotswold Line services with 125mph rolling stock. It is not a condition in the franhcise agreement, apart from the two HSTs that have for many years operated in the am and pm peak between Hereford and London. These are used due to the high loadings on these trains. Line speed is no greater than 90mph on some sections so having 125mph trains on the line itself makes no difference.
The 0534 from Great Malvern had always been worked by a 3-car Turbo. In fact until FGW Link came into being in 2004, all services with the exception of the two peak trains from Hereford were formed by Turbo trains. FGW has transformed travel on the Costwold Line in the past 3 years by introducing Adelantes on all but the two peak HST's services, and one 'local' stopping train.
In December an Adelante was put onto the 0534 train, but a review carried out by FGW in January to assess the utilisation of rolling stock and operation of the timetable meant it was moved onto an additional 0733 ttrain from Oxford. This train was needed to meet the needs of commuters from Oxford and the Thames Valley. The 0534 reverted to a Turbo that had been used before December, so no great difference in capacity - as far as Oxford at least!
Whilst CLPG says FGW is ignoring consultation, it fails to mention that the existing timetable on the line is based on its own ideas and was introduced by FGW - so they certainly were lsitening to the group.
Consultation is about collecting views from a wide number of different users and organisation. It is not about getting everything you ask for all the time, as there has to be some compromise and I believe FGW has had to juggle many competing demands from users across their area. Sadly, CLPG interpet this as being ignored which I do not think is the case. For example, most recently CLPG has been highly critical of changes to services at Newbury because they were strengthened with an extra Adelante that CLPG felt should be used on its line. They fail to acknowledge that commuters from Kennet & Avon have been forced to stand and have been unable to get on board full trains since December and FGW has reacted to this problem by changing the use of rolling stock to best meet demand.
The 0710 HST from Bristol to Paddington is a spare set. The train works to the capital in the morning and stays at Old Oak Common depot all day before heading back west in the afternoon rush hour. It makes sense for this to operate in service to provide an extra train from Bristol in the morning (from mid-morning onwards most of the Bristol service is resourced by HSTs arriving from London). Running it in service (when a set is available) takes away the need for an empty out of service trains to use a scarce path all the way to London.
What people have slowly begun to forget is that FGW did not specify the structure of the timetable. DfT issued a very detailed specification, including the full timetable that had to be provided between London-Bristol/Oxford. Whilst DfT says that it sets the minimum service (which may be true), it also controls the rolling stock available in the franchised fleets. Even of FGW wanted to run more trains it would have to do so with the same amount of rolling stock, unless 1) DfT agreed to pay for more trains, or 2) the business case was so strong as to make it viable for FGW to lease extra trains that could be paid for by the extra revenue. Very few services actually make enough money for them to do this, as an HST costs around £1.2 million each year to lease, let alone fuel and staff etc.
The franchise is focused on increasing travel demand and getting more bums on seats so better dialogue between users and FGW management is always a good thing!
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Graham Ellis
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The franchise is focused on increasing travel demand and getting more bums on seats so better dialogue between users and FGW management is always a good thing!
Thanks for that very detailed follow up. I'll let others pick up the detail as it concerns servies that I have little knowledge of. I am, though, heartened by your conclusion .... I think that First and the DfT are doing a big "oopsie" concerning the removal of the Swindon to Southampton service and its replacement by 2 round trips a day, at inappropriate times, as far as Westbury. As this is a service that First only took over on 1st April last - prior to that it was run by a competing bidder - they had little chance to do their homrwork ahead of time. Tony's offer on the top of this thread was to put questions / requests to Alison Forster. I've asked him to get her to reschedule the service from May so that there are bums on the seats - running it at a time that SLC2 does allow, and when we know that the bums (and associated bodies) do want to travel. In these parts, we don't have the luxury of arguing for a 125 v a Turbo; if the 06:44 is too early for us (or we miss it), the next train to Westbury is not at 06:56, nor 09:12 nor 14:49 nor 18:09 as it used to be - it's now at 19:08. And that, gentlemen, is on a service that was growing rapidly but was assumed to have a 0.8% growth ... And we need to take a look at december too 
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tramway
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Getting the stock in the right order would be a good start. 0703 off Trowbridge this morning ran with 1 x 158 and 1 x 143 on the rear, this would normally divide at BTM with the rear portion making the Cardiff train and the rest going on to WSM, not this morning. Initial announcement WAS for the 143 to make up the Cardiff train, but then they changed their minds,  and amid much guessing as to whether we would be going to WSM this morning everyone trooped off to the 158 and waited while the WSM portion trundled out of the way so we could leave, 15 min late. 
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Steve Bray
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Just a quick response to the comments from GWR to whom I also thank for his explanations.
I don't wish to deviate this thread from the topic. Obviously GWR is more "in the know" than I, as a humble rail enthusiast (and supporter). Yes, the Adelantes have provided a more comfortable service than the turbos, but has performance on the Cotswold Line improved since December 2004? This timetable too, lead to an extremly poor performance at times by cramming too many services on the line, which is notorious for its large percentage of single track. My own opinion, is that there is perhaps one or two trains too many in each direction running on the line.
My comments on the 0534 from Great Malvern which runs at 0705 from Oxford were taken from both CLPG's comments on the matter, and the OxRail Action Group (they have just published a performance report on the new services). Its really the same difference that an Adelante has been laid on for the 0733 ex Oxford, because its been taken away from the longer Great Malvern service which leaves Oxford at 0705.So some commuters have benefited, and others have not.
As for the DfT specifications, it would seem that these have been misinterpreted by lots of interested parties (and I certainly haven't read the franchise specification in detail). This suggestion may show my ignorance of the whole situation, but if the specification for rolling stock and timetables etc were so drastic, why didn't FGW have the guts to say so before bidding or agreeing to operate it?
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tramway
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Another one is getting the departure screens to have the correct/some information.
Last nights 1841 Filton - WSM didn't appear either on the screen or at the station, enquiring at BTM help desk I was informed that it had been started from BTM, fat lot of good to the people at Filton who hadn't a clue what was going on.
It can also be quite amusing seeing that the cancelled 08something still showing on the board at 1800 that evening.
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