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Topic: Train on time leads to a one hour delay ... (Read 2490 times)
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Graham Ellis
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How can a train that ran on time lead to a major delay to the traveller?
Trains are said to be on time if they arrive at their final destination within 5 (?) minutes of schedule. So if the 06:44 from Melksham gets to Westbury at 07:12 when it was due at 07:07, it's on time. It takes five minues from Trowbridge so needs to leave there by 07:07 to be "on time".
Funny thing - the timetable says 06:54 at Trowbridge ... good time to catch the 07:03 to Cardiff. Fail to connect and the next "Cardiff" is an hour later.
SO the train from Melksham is officially ON TIME (which it can achieve by being 13 minutes behind what the timetable says at Trowbridge) and it delays passengers who have a GOOD connection into another ON TIME train by one hour.
What an odd way to run a railway. No wonder they can say they're "on target" while inconveniencing the public.
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Chris Street
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Graham, a train is said to be 'on time' within 10 minutes of reaching its final destination, or so I know, unless they've changed it...
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gaf71
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just a note to add to this.....i work for your favourite TOC, and we are asked to report delays of 3 minutes or more. Apparently this is when the fines start to kick in, so the delay has to be attributed correctly...i.e. train fault/ failure, traincrew issue, network rail infrastructure etc. so the fines are paid by the "right" company.
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Graham Ellis
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Thanks, gaf71 .... and thanks Chris for those clarifications. I understood in the past that the delays are measured at final destination, aren't they? So that the 13 minutes the 06:19 from Swindon is allowed between Trowbridge and Westbury which in reallity should be done in 6 minutes allows for 7 + 3 = 10 late at Trowbridge without any reported lateness. Sorry to harp on about this ... it's just a convenient way to be on time with good connection allowances, yet cause folks disruption. I've heard similar being discussed (I think) for the teminating of all cross-country trains at Birmingham to get better stats for performance, but at the expense of the traveller's delay to a subsequent service. Or perhaps I have the wrong end of that stick - I'm not from Birmingham after all 
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aik4on
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It's nine minutes for an HSS (high speed service) and four minutes for LTV (London and Thames Valley) and West (former Wessex) services.
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