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Please see [here] if you're looking for the current "Save the Train" home page.
Please see [here] for the TransWilts site.
Train service remains dire - southbound from Swindon at 06:15 and 18:45,
northbound from Westbury at 07:02 and 19:35. Please
pledge your support if you
would like to see an increase to six trains a day -
|Friday, 26th March 2010. Launch of TransWilts Community Rail Partnership. Bridge House, Trowbridge, from 19:30
An exciting new step forward to rejeuvenation of the line, its service and its use
BUSY, EXCELLENT MEETING ... see [here] for initial report
arriving Swindon at
07:48 08:53 11:50 14:50 17:36 and 20:19,
06:18 09:02 12:02 15:02 17:55 and 18:45.
Keynote for 2010
Forum archive ...
|An Update from Wiltshire.
* The TransWilts train service was WITHDRAWN in December, 2006 and there are now
just two trains a day running between Westbury and Swindon. This has extended the journey time by public transport from Salisbury to Chippenham from 55 minutes to between 80 and 110 minutes, and has extended the direct journey time by public transport from Trowbridge (County Town) to Swindon (largest urban area) from 35 minutes (train) to 95 minutes ("express" bus). The town of Melksham (population 24,000) now just has two trains each way daily - Southbound from Swindon at 06:18 and 18:45,and Northbound from Westbury at 07:00 and 19:35.
* Current (2008) train services were specified by the Strategic Rail Authority in in 2005, based on a 2004 report that relied on statistics from 2003 and 2002. An assumption was made of a growth of less that 1%, but according to the rail regulator, traffic grew from 2002 at a compound rate of 35% per annum, and the only other official (different) measures - from First and Wiltshire County Council - both reported growth rates in excess of 10%.
* When the through Swindon - Salisbury trains were withdrawn in December 2006, a service that had been running with just a few passengers in 2002 was popular and well used. When I was able to use the train regularly to connect on to Taunton or London, I usually found that my caraige on the TransWilts was BUSIER than my carriage on the main line service I changed into!
Save the Train
"Save the Train" was set up as a web site to:
1. Bring the attention of the travelling public, and local and national politicians, to the threat to the service and the need to provide appropriate tarnsport between the towns of Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Frome, Warminster and Salisbury.
2. To establish who the key decision makers were / are in this process, and to have them take a further, carefully considered look at the provision of an appropriate service, based on local inputs and requirements and future traffic needs as well as the financial and operational factors.
3. To encourage the permanent provision of that appropriate service, and to fully support the marketing and publicity of that service when achieved.
1. The TransWilts service has been brought to a wider audience, including the decision makers.
2. The key decision makers have been identified (Department for Transport, First Great Western, Wiltshire County Council are the three major ones) and they have been lobbied at consultations and other times. Steadily more serious consideration has been given to providing an appropriate service.
For the December 2007 timetable, First are providing an additional (Southbound) service on Sunday. It may be just one service above the minimum contractual obligation, but the longest of journeys starts with a single step. Also for this December, significant work was done with regards to the return of a three hourly service, down to some quite detailed discussions and an operational proposal. Regrettably, this was rejected in late May in favour of using the carriage earmarked for the service to provide extra Salisbury - Southampton trains running 12 minutes ahead of the new South West Trains service. "A very minor improvement for Hampshire has been placed ahead of a major restored service for Wiltshire". We residents of Wiltshire are furious.
It is now admitted that the current service is totally inadequate for requirements of a corridor with six Strategically Significant Towns and Cities within 40 miles from end to end. [SSTC - 50% grouwth in next 20 years]
3. Further work is ongoing with a view to putting a complete case that can also be resourced as from December 2008, using additional trains that will become available for revenue service once the major refurbishment program is completed.
Wider Concerns Across FGW Territory
The TransWilts service ("via Melksham") is not alone in suffering major changes to its service in December 2006 - all over the First Great Western franchise there were major alterations. And more will follow in December 2007. In response to requests from various other individual train users and organisations, the "Save The Train" Web server is ALSO hosting
"A forum provided by a First Great Western Customer, for First Great Western customers."
YOU will be very welcome to discuss the news and views on timetables, prices, reliability, customer service ...
In December 2007, the major changes include:
* Replacement of 20 year old local trains in Devon by 30 year old ones (158s by 142s)
* Replacement of 6 year old trains on semi-fast services by further 30 year old trains (Adelantes by 125s)
The newer trains are not being used to operate other services in the FGW area - they're being sent elsewhere in the country!
* Major timetable changes from Westbury through Bristol to Cardiff and Gloucester. Also effecting other services around the Bristol area and cross Bristol connecions.
* Dilton Marsh looses a couple of its already sparse services
* Dean and Mottisfont/Dunbridge will no longer be served by any First Great Western services, although the stations will still be looked after by FGW
* The additional peak hour Bristol to London service which was routed via Bristol Parkway to relieve overcrowding there will no longer serve Parkway.
* Buffet cars will be withdrawn from London to Bristol trains and other shorter distance "125" runs. We understand that some West Country runs, including at least one as far as Plymouth, will also be included in the roster of these trains.
In December 2007, further anticipated / spoken of changes will NOT be happening
* The more frequent service from Bristol Temple Meads to Avonmouth / Severn Beach, for which the Council has provided money, will NOT be operated.
* Proposed Additional services to Frome, filling current long gaps, will NOT be provided.
* TransWilts trains at 07:40, 10:30 and 13:30 from Salisbury to Swindon, returning at 09:00, 12:00 and 15:00 from Swindon will NOT be provided.
Prepared by Graham Ellis, Save the Train, for TWSW, September 2007
404, The Spa, Melksham, SN12 6QL • 01225 708225 • firstname.lastname@example.org
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk • http://www.firstgreatwestern.info
E.&O.E. - Information on this sheet is prepared to the best of my current knowledge, but some current data is sketchy, confusing and contradictory
Previous home page ...
Status - Train services Swindon - Westbury and beyond
(Swindon - Chippenham - Melksham - Trowbridge - Westbury - Frome)
(also on to Dilton Marsh - Warninster - Salisbury)
1. On current service.
Cut back to just 2 trains a day each way last December. New service was
intended to provide a peak commuter service to / from Swindon (source -
DfT, direct phone conversation) but in practise has been timed outside peak
from Government Statistics, 2006.
Bar chart shows journey start times, stars show the times "TransWilts" trains start.
New service started with a truly dreadful reliability record, with
remaining weekday services being replace by buses on over 40% of occacions
(statistic for the first weeks of January). Although the reliability has
improved (only 2 cancellations in the last week as I write this - that's
10%) the new timings have proven inappropriate for most travellers and
the reliability issue has forced much of the remaining traffic away from
I have figures of between 110000 and 120000 figures for journeys made on the
line for a recent full year (figures from FGW). I estimate journeys in the
current year will be between 5000 and 10000. That's a cut from an AVERAGE
of 33 passengers per train to an average of less that 10, and indicates a clear failure of the new timetable and / or its marketing in its goal of retaining the
best used peak services.
Saturday and services are also proving to be inappropriate / lightly
loaded. The 09:02 Westbury to Swindon timing is good, but the train at 17:50 that people used to return from a day out on (typical loading was
well above the average figures) has gone so people can't get back home to
The Sunday service of 2 Northbound trains and none Southbound is also quiet;
the two trains are mid and late evening. The first one loads at about the
new average; the second one is near-empty. Once again, poor timing and lack
of round trip options have resulted in a failure to - so far - capture the
market for which the trains were intended.
2. On possible improvements at current level.
Services 7 days a week from Westbury at 07:45 and 16:45, returning from
Swindon at 08:45 and 17:45 would NOT need any government permission as they
fall within the SLC2 specification apart from the 08:45 and 17:45 from
Swidnon on Sundays! They are also within the spirit of the specification.
I understand that an extra diagram might be needed to provide a service that's
within the government's intended use of the new service. I also understand
that a unit is being withdrawn in December from the Westbury to Southampton
service as that's being taken over by South West Trains (from Salisbury South). This extra unit could be used to provide, from December:
a) A 2 hourly service betweeen West Wiltshire and Swindon
b) A service every 3 hours between Salisbury, West Wilts and Swindon
c) A service every 2 hours (given appropriate timings / stock) between
Frome, West Wilts and Swindon.
and I commend these options to the planners / railwaymen / polititians.
i) The peak timing suggestions made above are critical to the success of
the new service
ii) Jacobs 2004 (even on pessimistic growth figures of 0.8% when over
10 time that was achieved) recommended the clockwork day time service
as cost effecive, using the same train as provided the PEAK service.
iii) Additional trains would also cause an increase in usage of the
current 2 round trips (at their new timing) with passengers looking to
commute for longer and shorter days.
iv) We have identified 12 key traffic flows that this line used to cater
for and the new services recommended meet all these flows. There used
to be a significant adhoc longer distance traffic too.
v) West Wilts, Mendip, Chippenham and Swindon are all set for major growth
over the next 20 years. The A350 road that parallels the railway will not
be able to cope with the growth, and town centre access and parking in
Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon (4 of the 5 largest towns in
the county) is problematic in every case.
vi) Recent historic precedent (2001 to 2006) has shown that an increase in
service on this line, even poorly advertised and irregularly timed, leads
to a dramatic increase in passengers in the medium to long term
vii) Usage levels up to December 2006 were continuing to grow and surveys
indicated that a continuation of that growth level for the next 10 years
would have been probable.
viii) Swindon is a top commuter destination (as well as Bristol and Bath)
from West Wiltshire, and that will continue to grow. The current service
is essentially a commutert train from West Wiltshire to Gloucester /
Cheltenham which is NOT a major commuter flow.
Looking beyond the option above, further suggestions have been made:
a) What about a service that's concentrated in the peak and allows the
stock to be serviced during the day? Answer - in principle, yes, using
the existing 2 services at EXISTING times with at least 3 extra round
trips a day, running an hour before and an hour after (evening) and
an hour after (morning). On this scenario, the current morning service
from Westbury could be retime at 06:30, new service at 07:30.
b) It is noted that the December '07 timetable may include a dramatic
reduction of services to Dilton Marsh, and some reduction to Warminster.
However, we are also informed of a major tiemtable revision in the
Bristol - Westbury corridor and this may be corrected. It may be worth
exploring turning some of the Swindon services at Warminster.
I await input from First who are writing to me shorty with regard to
what is currently suggested from this coming December - we already
know of plans for certain changes (in principle) between Westbury and
3. On mechanisms to take this forward
3.1 Officer / Planner / Rail Professional / Financial track
Wiltshire County Council, the Department for Transport and First Great
Western all need to work on this from a financial and rail angle, and
every attempt is being made to bring the parties together. In spite of the
recent rebuttal by the Department for Transport of the petition for an
appropriate service (which requoted the conclusions form old statics that
have proven with time to be incorrect, blamed First for the reliability
issue, and rejected a request that we had NOT made for a return to the
old service), there ARE encouraging noises behind the scenes.
In principle, DfT want to find an alternative to the current service that
is clearly NOT working as they intended. Contrary to the report (above)
from the PM's office, and other things said in the public arena, I have
been encouraged by the positive and realistic approach by civil servants
and by some political whispers.
Wiltshire County Council have the rail route as one of their strategic ones
under the Local Transport Plan, but it would be helpful (perhaps pivotal)
if they took an element of day-to-day ownership of the issue.
First have indicated a willingness to run the service is provided and have
been helpful with information and helping to evaluate options. Some historic
(such as signage, bus connections, and the truely dreadful current timings
introduced in spite of consultation inputs that told them that they would not
work) need to be overcome.
We also need to look wider. Community Rail has been mentioned and is
worth investigating (I understand things may be under way).
Inclusion within Severnside Partnership (extending it to Westbury, Frome,
Swindon, Gloucester). Ensuring the Somerset, Swindon and other
appropriate groups / authorities are involved too.
3.2 Taking this forward - Campaigning level
West Wilts Rail User group, Melksham Rail Development Group, "Save the Train" and many others in full support. Local MPs in full support (and candidates for new Chippenham seat too), and most local councillors.
a) Suggestion of a "Hustings" meeting in the next few weeks before the local elections to give the politicians a chance to air their views in public.
b) Support officers groups - positive suggestions / inputs from service users and all parties, in spite of some of the public rebuffs.
c) Publicity events such as an August Sunday special - say Swindon to Weymouth as a day trip.
d) Ongooing liaising with the operator of the service and all parties
e) Co-ordination / information exchange via web sites such as www.savethetrain.org.uk, and working in / with Travel Watch South West and others.
Prepared by Graham Ellis, 4th April 2007.
A bit of history - previous home page ...
On 10th December 2006, First Great Western acting under a
franchise issued by the Department for Transport SLASHED train services on
the TransWilts line (Swindon to Westbury and Southampton via Melksham) by
over 60%, with the few remaining trains timed for operational
conventience and not for passengers.
Melksham, population 24,000 and forecast to grow to around 32,000 by 2026
is left without a single train between 07:17 in the morning until 19:08 at
night ... and this on a service which has shown significant growth in the
past 5 years - ticket sales at Melksham up from 3000 to 27000 per annum, 8%
compound rise in journeys yearly according to county council surveys. And
what basis was used for the cuts? Figures that are now 4 years out of
date, a growth forecast of between 0.8% and 1.7%, and an operator who runs
a near monopoly on public transport in the region, and who knows that
passengers wil be forced onto his other longer, more expensive, less
convenient and slower services.
This isn't just a Melksham issue! Swindon to Trowbridge travellers
are just as inconveninced, now being offered services at only 06:19
and 18:43. Chippenham to Salisbury becomes a nightmare by public transport.
Frome to Swindon commuters face an extra 100 minutes on their day. In
fact - for every Melksham traveller, there are three more who have been
using the service through Melksham for these other journeys.
This site has been dedicated to a fight to "Save the train" from its inception
in August 2005, which was just after a quiet "consultation" that none of us
had heard about. We've been told 'too late' a lot of time. We've been told a
lot of other things too. First managers have admitted that the new timings
are dreadful and don't answer any of the inputs / suggestions we made at the
consultation - quite the reverse but - and here's some light - they ARE
looking at what they can do to improve the situation from the next timetable
revision. And there is political interest and some activity behind the
WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP
Did you know - the largest towns in Wiltshire are Swindon, Salisbury, Chippenham, Trowbridge and Melksham, in that order. Now where does / did the TransWilts serve?
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Recent running information:
(shows most recent trains, and cancellations/no shows in last week)
07:17 train on 16/07/2008 was on time
06:40 train on 16/07/2008 was on time
19:11 train on 15/07/2008 shows as 19:43
07:17 train on 07/07/2008 shows as No report
more train records ...
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